2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It improves our offence. And, considering the fact that we're going to lose Hanifin anyways by the sounds of us, that's a good thing, right? Or you just want mystery boxes that might improve our team or might do absolutely nothing for us?

Even if we keep Hanifin, that doesn't change the team, so not sure how you're slanting an improved offence as a bad thing.

I am slanting it as a lateral move. I don't think an improved offense is a bad thing but when it is countered by a weakened defense not sure it results in a difference.

Yes I would prefer the mystery box because I think it has a better chance of helping us actually compete for something. No guarantee but I do know that continuing on with mediocrity is a guarantee to compete for nothing.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They threw in a 3rd to bring balance to the deal lol.

People talk like Huberdeau is a bum its hilarious.

Who are we going to sign with that cap space? J

The way Huska and Conroy talked about Huberdeau it sounds like a player who cares and knows he had a bad season. These are proud people he us going to make 10.5 and I think he wants to show his worth.

Even when its been detailed about what happened people find a way to blame Huberdeau and Markstrom for the season.

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

He has value yes, and his value isn't moving up 3 spots in the draft.

Its one of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen.

When was the last time a player of this caliber got traded to move up a few spots in the draft?

Also I don't think teams are dumb enough to think what we saw last year is the real Huberdeau.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

1 season and a new contract doesn't not erase a rock solid career of production. Far too many caveats to write Huberdeau off.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

Yes, I think there are many a GM who think he could return to the form he's shown and consider last year an outlier. Opportunity to buy low on an elite player, there would definitely be interest and GMs that would be willing to take that risk.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

Now now, let's not deflect from the amusing stupidity of oiler fans.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Yes, I think there are many a GM who think he could return to the form he's shown and consider last year an outlier. Opportunity to buy low on an elite player, there would definitely be interest and GMs that would be willing to take that risk.

I don't think there are any GM's how are going to take the chance with 13% of their cap that a player "may" bounce back.
I don't think anyone thinks Huberdeau is a "bum" but his contract is giving him negative value right now.
If he was on another team would anyone here think we should give up an asset to acquire him? Not a chance

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

Nope, not at 10.5, and one bounce back year does not justify anything. Anything short of 5 consecutive 90pt seasons= negative value, and lets face it, that is highly unlikely. The best hope is a trade for another equally bad contract on a shorter term; Seguin, Gallagher, Duchene/ Johansen.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Do you think Huberdeau, at the moment, has any value with his contract?

Among many fans? No. Among GMs, absolutely.

However, that question is missing the point, which is that it is a terrible time to trade him. Trading him now (for negative value) is the stupidest thing they could do. Sometimes you have to have some patience.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Nope, not at 10.5, and one bounce back year does not justify anything. Anything short of 5 consecutive 90pt seasons= negative value, and lets face it, that is highly unlikely. The best hope is a trade for another equally bad contract on a shorter term; Seguin, Gallagher, Duchene/ Johansen.

Ridiculous.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

I don't think there are any GM's how are going to take the chance with 13% of their cap that a player "may" bounce back.
I don't think anyone thinks Huberdeau is a "bum" but his contract is giving him negative value right now.
If he was on another team would anyone here think we should give up an asset to acquire him? Not a chance

The cap is going up the contract wont be so bad.

Also players like Huberdeau are hardly ever traded so its hard to put value on him.

He doesn't have negative value and a lot of GM's would line up to trade for him.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Ridiculous.

Have you seen the trend among GMs in the league not name Treliving? If its so ridiculous, find a landing spot for this player and contract. Would be the highest paid player on 26 other teams, there is no value in this contract.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It was interesting to go back and see his ice time and how he was misused and I think a lot of GM's probably saw that as well.

32 times in 21/22 he played 20 or more minutes in a game.

3 times last year he got 20 or more minutes. He had more 14 minute games than 20.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Ridiculous.

Do you think Benn, Tavares, Jones, and Nurse have value?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The cap is going up the contract wont be so bad.

Also players like Huberdeau are hardly ever traded so its hard to put value on him.

He doesn't have negative value and a lot of GM's would line up to trade for him.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Do you think Benn, Tavares, Jones, and Nurse have value?

Benn, Jones and Nurse have proven that they aren't good players. Huberdeau has had one bad season, in an environment where everything went wrong and was terribly toxic, when he was trying to become better defensively.

Keep some perspective.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Do you think Benn, Tavares, Jones, and Nurse have value?

John Tavares had 36 goals and 80 points this year, and he’s only got one year left after this.

Yes, he’s expensive.

He has value.

Same thing for Benn - 78 points, one more year after this one. Oodles of experience, size, skill, and mean.

Expensive, but valuable.

Jones and Nurse, I agree - garbage contracts that will be problematic unless a compliance buyout period falls out of the sky.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The cap is going up the contract wont be so bad.

Also players like Huberdeau are hardly ever traded so its hard to put value on him.

He doesn't have negative value and a lot of GM's would line up to trade for him.

Can you please provide the list of GM's/ teams who would be in the line up? And what they would be willing to give up? It's not so much the player, it is the term. Treliving sunk this franchise with these (Kadri) deals. And Conroy is going to have to part with the solutions (Lindholm, Hanfin, Tanev,) and be stuck with the problems.

[Duffalufagus]

No GM in the league would "line up" to take that 8 year Huberdeau contract. Get real people. We are stuck with it. Hopefully he returns some value on the front end of it.

[Jason14h]

The contract may actually become tradeable when the cap is higher in 2-3 years AND if he can show a bounce back and only has 5 years Vs 8 remaining (although he would be older as a negative)

However this offseason ? I can’t see anyone taking the risk. It’s just a bad bet at 10.5