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Old 06-19-2023, 01:44 PM   #21
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Another place for rich people to have expensive funerals and leave their bodies lying, never to be removed?

See Mt Everest.
they call it "Rainbow Valley". Always found that dark, but fitting at the same time.
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Old 06-19-2023, 01:44 PM   #22
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I can't imagine the immense pressure on any potential rescue team given the circumstances.
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How difficult would it be to retrieve the sub once it is located?
According to information in the link, if it is any deeper than 200m, it would be virtually impossible to retrieve. It has enough life support for 96 hours assuming 5 people on board. That's a lot of time to stare at the wall waiting to die.

If it is bobbing around on the surface without communications, finding it would be the hard part, rescue would probably be easier.
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Watch this video, this is the jankiest fly by night operation you could imagine for something that needs to be safety critical. On official media trips, they have had things go sideways many times.

The sub is made of home made parts and not certified by any organization
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic...-in-the-world/
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Watch this video, this is the jankiest fly by night operation you could imagine for something that needs to be safety critical. On official media trips, they have had things go sideways many times.

The sub is made of home made parts and not certified by any organization
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic...-in-the-world/
Sheesh. I think after the first attempt when they had to abort after going down 37 feet, I would have bailed. I suppose they have a no money back policy though.
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Yeah, but the CEO's name is Stockton Rush. That's a can't fail name right there.
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What would the deaths look like if there was a breach at depth? Like Total Recall ending or the opposite?
Complete opposite, at that pressure you're basically smushed into the size of a medicine ball
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Old 06-19-2023, 03:05 PM   #28
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Watch this video, this is the jankiest fly by night operation you could imagine for something that needs to be safety critical. On official media trips, they have had things go sideways many times.

The sub is made of home made parts and not certified by any organization
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic...-in-the-world/
I'm maybe a callous prick, but I have a hard time feeling bad for these people. They wanted their thrill-venture and a story to brag about.

"This experimental vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, emotional trauma, or death." gee. what could go wrong?

I also hate that a site such as this was made a tourist attraction. Shouldn't have been allowed, especially for a uncertified homemade sub.
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What is there to gain from exploring the Titanic site so much?
It's not gonna last down there forever. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. As a Titanic mutter myself, I'd pay real rich person money to go down there. EdIT: Difference being, I'd pay woodshole to take me down in Alvin. I want the full Ballard experience.



If thei sub imploded (99 percent certain that's what happened here) it'll just disappear in time as well.
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The pressure at that depth would be about 5400 psi. To put in comparison if you were at a depth of 15', the pressure would be about 6.5 psi
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What would the deaths look like if there was a breach at depth? Like Total Recall ending or the opposite?
You can read all about the Byford-Dolphin Accident here:

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index...phin-accident/

"The results were immediately and horrific. The capsule violently decompressed and blasted away from the trunk, killing Crammond and severely injuring Saunders, while inside the chamber the pressure dropped instantaneously from 9 atmospheres to one in an instant. Hellevik, crouching in the trunk, was blown apart, scattering body parts across the rig deck. One observer described finding his liver “complete as if dissected out of the body,” while part of his spine was found 10 meters above the chamber on the rig derrick. The other divers in the chamber fared little better. Autopsies of Coward, Lucas, and Berergsen revealed lumps of white fat clogging their arteries and veins – proteins which had cooked and precipitated as their blood flash-boiled. Mercifully, all four divers are believed to have died instantly and painlessly."


Edit: I guess this would be the opposite as it's rapid decompression and not rapid compression. But, I guess just reverse the process to figure what that would do to your meat skeleton.
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What would the deaths look like if there was a breach at depth? Like Total Recall ending or the opposite?
All the air in your body (down to the molecular level)all leaving in less than a second. Good chance you wouldn't even feel it. It'd be like.....squishing a bug with a 50 cal bullet fired out of a gun.
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You can read all about the Byford-Dolphin Accident here:

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index...phin-accident/

"The results were immediately and horrific. The capsule violently decompressed and blasted away from the trunk, killing Crammond and severely injuring Saunders, while inside the chamber the pressure dropped instantaneously from 9 atmospheres to one in an instant. Hellevik, crouching in the trunk, was blown apart, scattering body parts across the rig deck. One observer described finding his liver “complete as if dissected out of the body,” while part of his spine was found 10 meters above the chamber on the rig derrick. The other divers in the chamber fared little better. Autopsies of Coward, Lucas, and Berergsen revealed lumps of white fat clogging their arteries and veins – proteins which had cooked and precipitated as their blood flash-boiled. Mercifully, all four divers are believed to have died instantly and painlessly."


Edit: I guess this would be the opposite as it's rapid decompression and not rapid compression. But, I guess just reverse the process to figure what that would do to your meat skeleton.
As gory as it sounds, it would be a lot better than sitting at the bottom of the ocean for 4 days in pitch black waiting for oxygen to run out. That would be horrifying. Like being buried alive.
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I'm maybe a callous prick, but I have a hard time feeling bad for these people. They wanted their thrill-venture and a story to brag about.

"This experimental vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, emotional trauma, or death." gee. what could go wrong?

I also hate that a site such as this was made a tourist attraction. Shouldn't have been allowed, especially for a uncertified homemade sub.
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"Approved by Boeing and NASA."

Uh...no it wasnt. The clowns who built it used to work for Boeing and NASA. At the moment 'working for Boeing' probably isnt the 'feather in your cap' that you think it is, and what did you do for NASA? They could have been mopping floors for all we know.

You could have put South American drug dealers in charge of building a submarine and likely gotten something more reliable.
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Visiting death is exactly how you invite it. Especially on some janky homemade submarine tour.

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All the air in you body (down to the molecular level)all leaving in less than a second. Good chance you wouldn't even feel it. It's be like.....squishing a bug with a 50 cal bullet fired out of a gun.
From reading and watching stuff about the USS Thresher accident it would be so quick your brain wouldn't even have time to register it.
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From reading and watching stuff about the USS Thresher accident it would be so quick your brain wouldn't even have time to register it.
Do they know at what depth it went missing? Was it at the site itself?
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I'm maybe a callous prick, but I have a hard time feeling bad for these people. They wanted their thrill-venture and a story to brag about.

"This experimental vessel has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, emotional trauma, or death." gee. what could go wrong?

I also hate that a site such as this was made a tourist attraction. Shouldn't have been allowed, especially for a uncertified homemade sub.
Nah, people should be able to do what they want. I don't want there to be a Titanic police force. If you can get down there and back up again, by all means, check it out and take some pics.
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Do they know at what depth it went missing? Was it at the site itself?
It was diving on the Titanic site, information out says they lost contact 1 hour and 45 minutes into the dive. Not sure how deep that would put them.
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