Ongoing US Mass Shooting Thread 2

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by blankall

Neo-nazi, incel, and pro-Russian. Almost like he's just latching onto anything that encourages mass shooting. The swastika tattoo for a latin person also odd. The article talks about mental illness. Sounds like he might have been discharged from the military for mental health issues... But had no trouble buying an AR-15.

No South America was firmly in the pro Nazi camp

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Have there been any lawsuits against the NRA? Victims groups should litigate them out of existence.

I am not 100% sure but I believe the American government passed laws that gun lobbyists and manufacturers cannot be sued as it would be deemed an infringement on the 2nd amendment. So unlike Tobacco and car makers anything associated with guns cannot be sued for wrongful death etc.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

I am not 100% sure but I believe the American government passed laws that gun lobbyists and manufacturers cannot be sued as it would be deemed an infringement on the 2nd amendment. So unlike Tobacco and car makers anything associated with guns cannot be sued for wrongful death etc.

Wow…

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Looks like I spoke too soon. The killer had singled out Asians with racial slurs on social media before.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1655747787366236161

https://twitter.com/user/status/1655748365811093506

Just a depressing state of how things are in North America. Similar to the "I like my pangolins medium rare" joke somewhere else on this forum earlier. Hurtful remarks that just add to the #### people go through for being Asian.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1655751757010710528

Seeing all this and reading more today about his targeting of Asian Americans is pretty upsetting. Not a great occurrence for Asian Heritage Month, and reminds me of how increasing attacks targeting Asians was a common theme in events for this month a couple of years ago too.

Trump really contributed to putting Asian Americans in the cross hairs during his term, COVID intensified it, and the awful rhetoric of fear and distrust down south now makes it feel like this kind of stuff is inevitable in the context of the states. Pretty saddening.

There's a vivid history of anti-Asian violence in the states too. Historical events like the burning of Black Wallstreet have become pretty well known in the US now, but there are also many lesser-known but equally horrific examples of similar events that happened to Asian communities in the US following the Exclusion Act. This shooting brings that side of Asian heritage in the US to mind.

[hwy19man]

Three people dead at a nightclub shooting iin Kansas City, Missouri.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/mass-shooting-at-missouri-nightclub-leaves-at-least-3-dead/

[activeStick]

9 shot minutes ago in Hollywood, Florida.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1663354231745642496

[hwy19man]

Early Tuesday morning, a mass shooting in the area where fans were celebrating the Nuggets’ NBA Finals victory injured nine people, leaving three in critical condition.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba...d0b346f8&ei=53
https://twitter.com/GunsDownAmerica/status/denver-nuggets-shooting-celebration-championship.html

[DoubleK]

This one hits pretty close to home. We were contemplating going this year to see Andy C.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/go...ing/index.html

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

This one hits pretty close to home. We were contemplating going this year to see Andy C.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/go...ing/index.html

Two people were killed and several others were wounded in a mass shooting at the campgrounds near Washington’s Gorge Amphitheatre.

So, someone decided to spray bullets into the campground after a concert. I don't mean anything negative by the add-on, I just didn't know where home was, and have never heard of Andy C.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Wow. I used to go Sasquatch Music Festival at the Gorge all the time, about ten years ago. What a travesty that people cannot enjoy anything anymore in that god forsaken hellhole that is the USA.

[direwolf]

Concerts, campgrounds, nightclubs, schools, malls, grocery stores… seems like people down there aren’t safe anywhere anymore, and these shootings are happening so frequently, like one or two per week. It’s sad and it’s preventable, but the U.S. just refuses to do anything about it, even though the majority of citizens are in favour of common sense gun laws. What a f***ed up country.

[Language]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

This one hits pretty close to home. We were contemplating going this year to see Andy C.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/go...ing/index.html

This one definitely hits close to home. I was there last year for the Above & Beyond Weekender (also an EDM show), and am going there again next month for the same event.

The last place you would expect this to happen at - though I guess that’s the old saying and isn’t really relevant in the U.S anymore, where it can literally happen anywhere and any place and not be surprised anymore. Sad state of affairs.


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[activeStick]

Yeah. The old saying, "last place that would happen" simply doesn't apply in the US when shootings can happen at an elementary school, in a theatre, at a concert, in a place of worship, in a grocery store, in your workplace, in a moving car, etc. Hmm... Maybe airports and train stations are safe down there?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Concerts, campgrounds, nightclubs, schools, malls, grocery stores… seems like people down there aren’t safe anywhere anymore, and these shootings are happening so frequently, like one or two per week. It’s sad and it’s preventable, but the U.S. just refuses to do anything about it, even though the majority of citizens are in favour of common sense gun laws. What a f***ed up country.

Actually, it's more than one per day for mass shootings

[craigwd]

I was thinking of making the pilgrimage there with the gf to see Dave Matthews Band.....but maybe rethinking that.

I just can't think of any good reason to visit the USA these days.

[undercoverbrother]

America is can be a scary place

[D as in David]

And it's only getting worse. There doesn't seem to be a point that would be low enough to change that country's trajectory.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by D as in David

And it's only getting worse. There doesn't seem to be a point that would be low enough to change that country's trajectory.

In order to change, it would have to impact the people that make the laws…for example, if a mass shooting were to kill/injure several members of congress or senate (or their loved ones), I think it would change things from “thoughts and prayers” to “outrage and action” from the lawmakers themselves

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by D as in David

And it's only getting worse. There doesn't seem to be a point that would be low enough to change that country's trajectory.

If Sandy Point didn't change anything, nothing will.
It's just rinse and repeat, doesn't even register with most people unless it's more than 10 dead. Eventually that will become to common place and the new "give a ****" number will be 20.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ah123

In order to change, it would have to impact the people that make the laws…for example, if a mass shooting were to kill/injure several members of congress or senate (or their loved ones), I think it would change things from “thoughts and prayers” to “outrage and action” from the lawmakers themselves

I dunno, a politician got shot in the head for having the audacity to talk to the public, and nothing changed.