[Rumour] LeBrun: All signs point to Hanifin not wanting to extend with Flames

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Baffling that he played as little as he did down the stretch.

More hits in 23 games than Tanev, Stone, and Andersson.

Despite having almost no offensive game to speak of, his +/- at the end of the year was Even. People #### on +/-, but for one-dimensional defensive D, it’s very helpful.

I don't understand why anyone completely disregards +/- when every stat to some degree is impacted by your linemates.

+/- being ignored is why so many predict the Oilers to win the cup every year. Draisaitl lead the playoffs in goals only playing 2 rounds and scoring over a goal a game yet they lost. He was -1. Not all on him but some is.

I thought Gilbert was a great 6/7 guy last year and never once thoughy "get this guy out of the lineup" once during the season

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

For Poirier I think it probably depends on how you want him to develop at this point.

Do you:

A) Keep him in the AHL on the top pair and play him against top competition to try to improve his overall play defensively?

or

B) Bring him up to the NHL and play him in a more sheltered 3rd pairing role with offensive minutes and PP time potentially...and try to work on his defensive game at the NHL level.

I don't know what the answer is but feel like those are the two options.

My vote is give him another year at least, with a few cups o' coffee.

[Hackey]

Not surprising at all. Now will see if Conroy has any clue about team building here with how he decides to handle Lindholm and Hanifin trades.

[GUnit]

Won't be missed, yes draft pedigree and age blah blah. But watching him play, guy turns over the puck at absolute worst moment, the definition of anti-clutch

[Sandman]

I think we'll know what Conny is made of by the end of the month perhaps.

[bluejays]

Conroys make or break point is here and that isn’t an exaggeration at all. Years down the road we’ll be looking what he did with his returns and at this draft to say where her he got enough or if he drafted well. I think it’s an area he can’t possibly get wrong, but more a question of maximizing the potential return.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I think we'll know what Conny is made of by the end of the month perhaps.

Not the least complicated crap sandwich to sort out.

Should be fun to watch.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

It would be funny if Noah wants to stay and is using this tactic to negotiate while Elias tries the opposite approach.

Players saying they want out, a year before their contracts are up, is the BEST thing that could happen to the Flames, yes even better than signing on team friendly deals.

It forces a rebuild regardless of what management calls it. Even with everyone back this team is not a contender. This forces the issue.

Without legit stars, it frees Conroy up to move anyone as he sees fit. This team needs stars and the only way to get them is through drafting. Eventually Murray will understand that.

New stadium, star players, sell the Flames for an epic profit and buy an EPL team.

A rebuild or a reshuffle of the deck chairs.

We have a lot of D and need scoring. Bye Hanifin.

We need to add draft picks, inject young guys and add depth scoring. Bye Lindholm.

Hopefully it’s that simple.

[iamca]

Trade him for maximum value and get a top 6 scorer because we really need it!


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

A rebuild or a reshuffle of the deck chairs.

We have a lot of D and need scoring. Bye Hanifin.

We need to add draft picks, inject young guys and add depth scoring. Bye Lindholm.

Hopefully it’s that simple.

Yeah it’s simple, except to ownership.

It’s not up to Conroy. So, it’s not all on him regardless of what happens.

[Samonadreau]

Recent track record with American players wanting to stay here not so good

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Recent track record with American players wanting to stay here not so good

This is a miss conception. Reality is outside of Tkachuk - 'Captain America', Some American players would rather raise their families in the united states, closer to family, no boarders ect. Noah is at that age, getting settled down long term is a important priority for a % of his generation.

Noah going to a destination in the North East/East is probably ideal for him.

We might not feel the same sentiment..."a professional athletes making millions to play a kids game - it shouldn't matter" but it matters and people are being more open about it.

He's been a great player for the flames for 5 years, good in the community. You can't really ask anymore of the guy. His game is what his game is - steady.

[Draug]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I have no problem with the Flames trading everyone acquiring lots of picks for this draft and trying again.

Are you a season ticket holder?

I'm curious how many STH's would like to see it all burnt to the ground to endure 2 years of horrible games in the hopes of landing a superstar in the draft?

I am supportive of trading the pending UFAs that will not re-sign. You must have good asset management. I am also supportive of a re-tool.

But, I have no appetite for a scorched earth, aim for dead last, type of rebuild. I have no appetite to spend 10's of Thousands of dollars to watch horrible 0.333% hockey.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Draug

Are you a season ticket holder?

I'm curious how many STH's would like to see it all burnt to the ground to endure 2 years of horrible games in the hopes of landing a superstar in the draft?

I am supportive of trading the pending UFAs that will not re-sign. You must have good asset management. I am also supportive of a re-tool.

But, I have no appetite for a scorched earth, aim for dead last, type of rebuild. I have no appetite to spend 10's of Thousands of dollars to watch horrible 0.333% hockey.

I'm pretty sure many Long term season ticket holders have already watched a lot of terrible hockey.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Sec214

This is a miss conception. Reality is outside of Tkachuk - 'Captain America', Some American players would rather raise their families in the united states, closer to family, no boarders ect. Noah is at that age, getting settled down long term is a important priority for a % of his generation.

Noah going to a destination in the North East/East is probably ideal for him.

And I definit

We might not feel the same sentiment..."a professional athletes making millions to play a kids game - it shouldn't matter" but it matters and people are being more open about it.

He's been a great player for the flames for 5 years, good in the community. You can't really ask anymore of the guy. His game is what his game is - steady.

potato potahto. If they want to leave, they dont want to stay here.

What's the misconception?

For the record all I said was the recent track record isnt so good, i have no problems with him going somewhere else and being honest with the team about it so we can manage assets.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Recent track record with American players wanting to stay here not so good

Best solution to keep guys is build a contender. Somehow the owners haven't figured that out yet. But maybe the Cup isn't their priority.

[CFO]

Sharangovich plus for hanafin.

[simmer2]

Not trying to be a jerk at all...but

Miss conception. Tee hee

[iloveicedhockey]

Guy on twitter seems to think that he'll end up east and while doesn't claim to know who, thinks jersey would be good partners. Also said the best offer is from someone on Noah's no trade list.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

Guy on twitter seems to think that he'll end up east and while doesn't claim to know who, thinks jersey would be good partners. Also said the best offer is from someone on Noah's no trade list.

My guess is Montreal. Wonder if they're offering the Kadri/Monahan 1st swap back and something else perhaps. Dvorak+, Dach, Guhle would be ideal targets.