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Old 06-14-2023, 07:30 PM   #2081
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Not really surprising considering it was between 2 non-traditional hockey markets and none of the games aired on broadcast tv, this year's Final did horrible numbers in the US...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669084086558683140

This was the first time the Cup clinching game aired on cable since the Stars-Sabres Final in 1999.
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Old 06-14-2023, 07:36 PM   #2082
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lol... why something happened doesn't change that something happened.
You guys are acting like it was unfair somehow...they got those matchups because they lost more games.

Anyway Dallas and Edmonton are as good as Leafs/Canes

I will give you Boston.over Winnepeg

Vegas is a way better team though, pretty hard to argue
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Old 06-14-2023, 08:31 PM   #2083
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Not really surprising considering it was between 2 non-traditional hockey markets and none of the games aired on broadcast tv, this year's Final did horrible numbers in the US...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669084086558683140

This was the first time the Cup clinching game aired on cable since the Stars-Sabres Final in 1999.
As you say, not a surprise. While the NHL is growing revenues, it seems to be growing at a slower pace than other major sports in NA.

Might be time for some different thinking from the league and maybe some fresh blood at the top.
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Old 06-14-2023, 08:59 PM   #2084
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As you say, not a surprise. While the NHL is growing revenues, it seems to be growing at a slower pace than other major sports in NA.

Might be time for some different thinking from the league and maybe some fresh blood at the top.

NHL marketing has got to be the worst in all of pro sports. There hasn't been anything original from them in ages. It continues to be that middle age Caucasian guy running the show catering to the stadium rock crowd. It's lazy getting has been bands to play for marquee events - and to televise it even worse.


Bettman is great for the game but how he doesn't see a better opportunity to market the game better by virtue of ads and in game entertainment, is a huge miss on their part.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:33 PM   #2085
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NHL marketing has got to be the worst in all of pro sports. There hasn't been anything original from them in ages. It continues to be that middle age Caucasian guy running the show catering to the stadium rock crowd. It's lazy getting has been bands to play for marquee events - and to televise it even worse.


Bettman is great for the game but how he doesn't see a better opportunity to market the game better by virtue of ads and in game entertainment, is a huge miss on their part.
They need to see if they can get Def Leppard back to do the NHL awards show again.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:33 PM   #2086
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If McDavid and Draisaitl have to be mentioned in the Stanley Cup thread, this is definitely the context I want it in.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:46 PM   #2087
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The game is just not that exciting. It's "fast" , but there is little creativity, everything seems to be get to the slot or shoot from the point with traffic. Some of that is of course because most teams stress defence over anything else so teams have little option when everyone is just blocking out the front of the net. How many breakaways were there throughout the entire playoffs? And then you throw in how random goaltending has become and how the most intriguing storyline in most series is how goalie x is now the starter despite not playing much in the regular season. Unless your team is in the playoffs, there just isn't much to get behind
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:53 PM   #2088
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Not really surprising considering it was between 2 non-traditional hockey markets and none of the games aired on broadcast tv, this year's Final did horrible numbers in the US...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669084086558683140

This was the first time the Cup clinching game aired on cable since the Stars-Sabres Final in 1999.
I’m not surprised. Just take a look at how the Vegas fans in the stand reacted to their team winning a cup on their home building. I think I celebrated Edmonton getting eliminated in the second round harder
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Old 06-14-2023, 11:12 PM   #2089
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The Stanley Cup playoffs are gruelling. The first two rounds are fantastic, but by the third round the quality of play gets dragged down by fatigue. By the finals the players are exhausted and fans have viewing fatigue from watching hockey every second night for almost two months. Made worse this year by killing what momentum the playoffs had from the conference finals with flabby scheduling of the finals.
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Based on what Paul Maurice said, this is an SC (sternoclavicular) joint injury. Depending on the details of the injury, it can be quite scary. The clavicle stabilizes and protects. Behind the clavicle are major complexes of nerves and blood vessels. If the injury is a full dislocation and the detached head of the clavicle is pushed inwards behind the sternum, or if the clavicle itself is broken proximally (i.e., close to the sternum), there's a danger of secondary injuries (like internal bleeding) that can actually be life-threatening. Pretty clear that it wasn't one of these worst-case scenarios, but even so, I'm very surprised that the Panthers' medical team cleared him to play on.
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Old 06-15-2023, 12:21 AM   #2091
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I’m not surprised. Just take a look at how the Vegas fans in the stand reacted to their team winning a cup on their home building. I think I celebrated Edmonton getting eliminated in the second round harder

Yeah

They barely booed Bettman

Disappointing lack of respect for tradition
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Old 06-15-2023, 01:34 AM   #2092
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People don’t want to watch hockey in June.
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Old 06-15-2023, 06:35 AM   #2093
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The Stanley Cup playoffs are gruelling. The first two rounds are fantastic, but the third round the quality of play gets dragged down by fatigue. By the finals the players are exhausted and fans have viewing fatigue from watching hockey every second night for almost two months. Made worse this year by killing what momentum the playoffs had from the conference finals with flabby scheduling of the finals.
The first round is easily the best part of the playoffs and as you say the quality gets worse as the playoffs progress. It's a real problem as it's such a shame that the SCF is typically the least entertaining round of the playoffs as that's the exact opposite of how a league would prefer to showcase the sport. The playoffs are simply too long as said above hockey in June is a hard sell even in Canada.
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Old 06-15-2023, 06:45 AM   #2094
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I think hockey should be starting sooner. Instead of an October start it should be a month earlier. I think the SCF in May would make more sense, having preseason in August and the reg season start in September. It's already hard enough to compete with the NFL on weekends, what about the NBA starting and ending around the same time as you. At least with an early month start before the NBA you might grab more hockey attention during the weekdays when the NFL games are not on.
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Old 06-15-2023, 06:46 AM   #2095
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People don’t want to watch hockey in June.
Last time Flames were in the finals I only wanted to watch Hockey in June. Its all geography.
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Old 06-15-2023, 06:46 AM   #2096
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The first round is easily the best part of the playoffs and as you say the quality gets worse as the playoffs progress. It's a real problem as it's such a shame that the SCF is typically the least entertaining round of the playoffs as that's the exact opposite of how a league would prefer to showcase the sport. The playoffs are simply too long as said above hockey in June is a hard sell even in Canada.
Yet don't they want to add more games to the season? I wish they all could be a bit less greedy and drop a minimum 4 games from he regular season.

would the owners and players really be that less rich if they gave up 4-8 games of revenue?
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Old 06-15-2023, 07:08 AM   #2097
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Yet don't they want to add more games to the season? I wish they all could be a bit less greedy and drop a minimum 4 games from he regular season.

would the owners and players really be that less rich if they gave up 4-8 games of revenue?
If they want to add more games to the regular season they need to consider going back to best of 5 in the first round. I feel that would somewhat help the entertainment factor of the 2nd round and conference finals with teams being more fresh.
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Old 06-15-2023, 07:53 AM   #2098
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Totally agree that the first round is the best round, which is why it's the round I would least like to see shortened. If anything were to get shortened, which it won't, I would support rounds two and three going to five games, but keeping round one and the finals as seven.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:17 AM   #2099
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The finals being a laugher didn't help
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I'm clearly in the minority because I'd love to have NHL hockey year round lol. Sure, I'd watch less in the summer when I'm out enjoying the weather, but I totally wouldn't mind it if I could watch the Flames play on those nights when I am at home.
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