Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Unfortunately, conservatives needed to win that election to stop the Liberals printing money that has gotten us into the mess we are in.

Setting aside the fact that the Bank of Canada largely dictates money supply and not the government, that doesn't even begin to make sense.

Increase in money supply since that election:

4.3% (annualized)


Average annual increase in money supply in each decade:

1970s: 17%
1980s: 10.8%
1990s: 3.9%
2000s: 6.9%
2010s: 7.4%

So since that election, we've seen some of the slowest growth in money supply in modern Canadian history.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Setting aside the fact that the Bank of Canada largely dictates money supply and not the government, that doesn't even begin to make sense.

Increase in money supply since that election:

4.3% (annualized)


Average annual increase in money supply in each decade:

1970s: 17%
1980s: 10.8%
1990s: 3.9%
2000s: 6.9%
2010s: 7.4%

So since that election, we've seen some of the slowest growth in money supply in modern Canadian history.

Yeah, but Polievre said it was Trudope's fault in a video!

[Doctorfever]

Hmmmmm
Wonder why Chong was targeted.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...bank-1.5360647

Conservative foreign-affairs critic Michael Chong said it's unacceptable that Canada would support the bank when China is conducting secret trials of Spavor and Kovrig.

Chong said the Liberal government should use all of the tools at its disposal, including withholding the payment, to put pressure on Chinese authorities to stop the trials and release the two Michaels.

[PepsiFree]

Complete. Financial. Ruin. (that only the Conservatives can fix and definitely not make worse)

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yeah, but Polievre said it was Trudope's fault in a video!

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ck-to-bite-him

Opinion column. Important facts about interest rates and our debt.




“Since taking office, the Trudeau Liberals have increased spending by 55% from $317 billion in 2016 to $490 billion now. The federal deficit went from $29 billion then to $40 billion now and the debt has risen from $648 billion to $1.2 trillion.

And the cost to service the debt, it’s gone from $$25.7 billion in 2016 to $43.9 billion now, and that cost is only going to keep rising.

When Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre called for the Trudeau government to rein in spending this week, to help slow the growth of inflation, Trudeau scoffed. He accused the Conservatives of not backing COVID supports for Canadians – a lie, they voted for them – or of wanting Canadians to go without key programs like dental care, the new national child care program or an expanded tool rebate for skilled trades.

All of this is nonsense, these programs are not the cause of Trudeau’s massive spending increases, which banks and even former Liberal finance minister John Manley have said are contributing to inflation.”

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Complete. Financial. Ruin. (that only the Conservatives can fix and definitely not make worse)

No, I bet Singh would be the man to fix that. Hahahaha

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

No, I bet Singh would be the man to fix that. Hahahaha

Oh I doubt he’s equipped to be fixing any “financial ruin,” nor do I think he’d be around by the time your financial ruin fantasy comes true.

At least I’m not actively rooting for the Liberals. Didn’t take you for a liberal apologist, doc.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Oh I doubt he’s equipped to be fixing any “financial ruin,” nor do I think he’d be around by the time your financial ruin fantasy comes true.

At least I’m not actively rooting for the Liberals. Didn’t take you for a liberal apologist, doc.

Hey, I like a good fire. Watch it burn!

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669006782356770816

[aaronck]

Because the UCP have made cost of living SO much cheaper in Alberta...Can't imagine the damage they would do at the Federal level

[monkeyman]

I wonder if Singh has gotten to the bottom of high food prices yet.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1669006782356770816

And yet Polievre's negative impression has reached an all-time high. I still have a hard-time seeing voters not just holding their nose and returning to Trudeau when push comes to shove.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

No, I bet Singh would be the man to fix that. Hahahaha

When he’s prime minister………..

And not a Liberal lap dog.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ck-to-bite-him

Opinion column. Important facts about interest rates and our debt.




“Since taking office, the Trudeau Liberals have increased spending by 55% from $317 billion in 2016 to $490 billion now. The federal deficit went from $29 billion then to $40 billion now and the debt has risen from $648 billion to $1.2 trillion.

And the cost to service the debt, it’s gone from $$25.7 billion in 2016 to $43.9 billion now, and that cost is only going to keep rising.

When Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre called for the Trudeau government to rein in spending this week, to help slow the growth of inflation, Trudeau scoffed. He accused the Conservatives of not backing COVID supports for Canadians – a lie, they voted for them – or of wanting Canadians to go without key programs like dental care, the new national child care program or an expanded tool rebate for skilled trades.

All of this is nonsense, these programs are not the cause of Trudeau’s massive spending increases, which banks and even former Liberal finance minister John Manley have said are contributing to inflation.”

I wonder if all of the money the Liberals are burning is contributing to climate change.

Or just lowering standards of living.

[zamler]

Libs have had 10 years to fix climate change we must be well on our way by now.

[curves2000]

The level of cuts that happened today at Bell Media, specifically CTV News, is downright shocking. Some of the best and brightest in the country were let go. This is a serious issue that governs our democracy in this country. People need to be held to account in politics, business and in government. We need an informed public.

I understand that people watch their news and get their reporting in different ways than before, less radio, tv, newspaper etc but the need for that news is still very much required.

I know people say they get their news from facebook, twitter or some random podcast etc but that news is only being repurposed. There are no facebook reporters asking questions to the people in government and in power or reporting on matters before the courts, those are journalists at media companies.

I don't know what the answer is but can we continue to sit idle and see the private broadcasters continue to fad away and than ONLY support CBC for the most part and than wonder why people have issues with that? Bell had some very pointed issues with the government and their policies, I think people need to have a look. We need to work together as a country to try and solve this issue as best as possible, it's worth fighting for.

Tough to see as I enjoyed all the people let go so far that I know of.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I wonder if all of the money the Liberals are burning is contributing to climate change.

Or just lowering standards of living.

Can you provide evidence and specific claims on this one?

[Jacks]

“Since taking office, the Trudeau Liberals have increased spending by 55% from $317 billion in 2016 to $490 billion now. The federal deficit went from $29 billion then to $40 billion now and the debt has risen from $648 billion to $1.2 trillion.

The federal deficit was not 29 billion when Trudeau assumed office. People can argue the fine details but the last Conservative budget was essentially balanced. Trudeau promised a 10 billion deficit for 3 years then a return to balance, that went right out the window and spending was out of control long before anyone heard of Covid.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by curves2000

The level of cuts that happened today at Bell Media, specifically CTV News, is downright shocking. Some of the best and brightest in the country were let go. This is a serious issue that governs our democracy in this country. People need to be held to account in politics, business and in government. We need an informed public.

I understand that people watch their news and get their reporting in different ways than before, less radio, tv, newspaper etc but the need for that news is still very much required.

I know people say they get their news from facebook, twitter or some random podcast etc but that news is only being repurposed. There are no facebook reporters asking questions to the people in government and in power or reporting on matters before the courts, those are journalists at media companies.

I don't know what the answer is but can we continue to sit idle and see the private broadcasters continue to fad away and than ONLY support CBC for the most part and than wonder why people have issues with that? Bell had some very pointed issues with the government and their policies, I think people need to have a look. We need to work together as a country to try and solve this issue as best as possible, it's worth fighting for.

Tough to see as I enjoyed all the people let go so far that I know of.

Significant amounts of funding are now being directed at private legacy media. The digital news subscription tax credit effectively means the government pays for 15% of all news subscription in Canada.

There is the 25% tax credit for journalist wages

And the Canadian Periodical funds for monthly and weekly publications.

Total projected value of these subsides is 600 million over 5 years

In thanks for this funding some criticized Trudeau for buying the news.

[zamler]

Poor misunderstood Trudeau was simply trying to help no good deed goes unpunished.