[News] Ryan Huska named HC. 12:30 PM MT presser

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Hopefully, they are at least thinking of retooling.

It’s not a confused mandate. They will trade them in player for player swaps. I highly doubt that flames will trade them for picks and prospects. Whether that’s the right call is up for debate.


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[MrMike]

Even if it’s for picks and prospects they’ll just use those assets to go shopping for their own guys

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

To me Dallas is the model. And that also underscores why drafting is so important. They've been able to move to a new core that seems like it can compete with few high picks (Heiskenen the notable one) but they drafted REALLY well outside of high picks. That's the only way you can pull it off. Which means have to become more valuable to this franchise.

Conny saying he wants to build through the draft more has me hopeful that they can do this

[keeper34]

How much and terms?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even Detroit that is considered to be a well run organization, with a star GM, is now up to a 7 year drought.
Ottawa is at 6.
Anaheim at 5.

Again I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, just outlining why it's probably a hard argument to win with ownership. Best you can do is somehow take a more balanced and forward looking approach, without uttering the word Re-build.

To me Dallas is the model. And that also underscores why drafting is so important. They've been able to move to a new core that seems like it can compete with few high picks (Heiskenen the notable one) but they drafted REALLY well outside of high picks. That's the only way you can pull it off. Which means have to become more valuable to this franchise.

I struggle a bit saying Dallas is the model. Hitting on picks like they did in that draft is as much luck as anything. If it were that easy, every team would be doing it and there would never be a need for a tear it down rebuild.

For me, it’s yes adding more picks and a numbers game, but just based on percentages you need at least one of those picks to be near the top of the draft. Better odds of adding an impact player or two that way, and if you hit on the others ala Dallas and Boston then you’re really cooking.

[TheIronMaiden]

At first blush I am not convinced there was much in the way of change. I hope to be wrong, but two internal hires from a team that has been middling for the last decade is not compelling. I'd love to be wrong of course.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I struggle a bit saying Dallas is the model. Hitting on picks like they did in that draft is as much luck as anything. If it were that easy, every team would be doing it and there would never be a need for a tear it down rebuild.

For me, it’s yes adding more picks and a numbers game, but just based on percentages you need at least one of those picks to be near the top of the draft. Better odds of adding an impact player or two that way, and if you hit on the others ala Dallas and Boston then you’re really cooking.

Sure but at some point don't we have to accept this team isn't going to do a full re-build and tank? It could happen by virtue of having a really bad single year, but otherwise I think we should think about what they could do realistically within the likely guard rails they have in place.

A related fun what-if is apparently the Panthers were going to take Jason Robertson, but the Stars snagged him one pick earlier. Florida picked Aleksi Heponiemi. Florida was also interested in Oettinger that year and were hoping he would fall to the 2nd.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Conny saying he wants to build through the draft more has me hopeful that they can do this

Me too. And it starts with placing higher value on those picks than the organization has had for decades. Particularly picks in the first 3 rounds. Horde those. Treasure them. Get more of them.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I struggle a bit saying Dallas is the model. Hitting on picks like they did in that draft is as much luck as anything. If it were that easy, every team would be doing it and there would never be a need for a tear it down rebuild.

For me, it’s yes adding more picks and a numbers game, but just based on percentages you need at least one of those picks to be near the top of the draft. Better odds of adding an impact player or two that way, and if you hit on the others ala Dallas and Boston then you’re really cooking.

Yeah, ‘draft elite players outside the first round’ isn’t a strategy. The Stars have good scouting, but they also got very lucky. And now that Robertson, Hintz, and Heiskenen are getting paid, those Seguin and Benn contracts are massive anchors.

[1_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Me too. And it starts with placing higher value on those picks than the organization has had for decades. Particularly picks in the first 3 rounds. Horde those. Treasure them. Get more of them.

Yeah that's important but selecting the right player/s with those picks is even more crucial.

[CSharp]

Are Flames games included with the Amazon Prime?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Elliote saying he won't say no to Tanguay until it's a no just doesn't know how a lateral move works. Also said maybe Savard.

Emphasis on they really want to change how we attack from that shot volume approach.

Interview I saw with Huska he emphasized the importance of shot volume and zone time. Talked about tweaks but those two things are fundamental to winning.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Interview I saw with Huska he emphasized the importance of shot volume and zone time. Talked about tweaks but those two things are fundamental to winning.

Yeah he did say that but said zone time is important and making those shots more dangerous and getting into the hard areas.

Basically what everyone has been saying all day the offensive zone is being opened up to allow more freedom.

Huska also mentioned how they want the D more involved and that's with moving into the danger areas.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by dino7c

good lord why do I even come here

Thinking the coaches with the best records are the best coaches is incredibly short sighted

Is the presidents trophy winner the best coached team each season? roster matters obviously

Mike Babcock was the worlds greatest coach according to many with team Canada and stacked Wings teams

Shame about that 31st place finish, he must have forgot how to coach that season

His entire tenure is at best pedestrian. Couple missed seasons, couple early playoff exits, not exactly promotion worthy in my books. I'm not happy about promoting this agent of averageness, but really I have no control over it and it reeks of a typical flames move which for some reason gives you anime googly eyes. Weird.

[Locke]

Yes, yes....but what of Sigalet?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Interview I saw with Huska he emphasized the importance of shot volume and zone time. Talked about tweaks but those two things are fundamental to winning.

Zone time maybe but the Flames have proved shot volume means #### to winning

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

His entire tenure is at best pedestrian. Couple missed seasons, couple early playoff exits, not exactly promotion worthy in my books. I'm not happy about promoting this agent of averageness, but really I have no control over it and it reeks of a typical flames move which for some reason gives you anime googly eyes. Weird.

Maybe some people just like to be optimistic? It's a heck of a lot more fun than the alternative.

Last season was rough. We have a new GM, and new coach and there will sure to be a different looking roster to start next season. It's all kinds of fun. Might as well sit back and enjoy the ride.

[Goriders]

Watched the presser and hope Huska does well. Seems like he’s ready to take the step. Also seems like he’s quite intelligent.

Wishing him and Conroy all the best. Hopefully they can attract the pieces back who want to be here and get some good players for those that don’t.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

His entire tenure is at best pedestrian. Couple missed seasons, couple early playoff exits, not exactly promotion worthy in my books. I'm not happy about promoting this agent of averageness, but really I have no control over it and it reeks of a typical flames move which for some reason gives you anime googly eyes. Weird.

He coaches the defense and they were 6th in PK and 8th in goals against in his time as an assistant. With pretty mediocre goaltending for all but one season in that time.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

His entire tenure is at best pedestrian. Couple missed seasons, couple early playoff exits, not exactly promotion worthy in my books. I'm not happy about promoting this agent of averageness, but really I have no control over it and it reeks of a typical flames move which for some reason gives you anime googly eyes. Weird.

My takes haven't been extreme at all on this...I said I was hoping for Love because he won in the AHL but when you really look at it Huska would have won in the AHL too with that roster.

Maybe give the guy a chance is all I am saying, what is the point of being all negative all the time about a game.