06-10-2023, 12:14 PM
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#301
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Might come off as exaggerated, but at the same time who's excited?
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Stang’s cousin
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06-10-2023, 12:16 PM
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#302
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Conroy is a huge Brind'Amour fan and I think he likes the Carolina model so this hire is on brand.
I just don't see the fiery side in Huska but maybe as a head coach he will be different.
Hopefully he is his own person and authentic we don't need another Gulutzan who put on a fake personality to get the job and behind the bench.
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06-10-2023, 12:17 PM
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#303
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The fact that he passed over Huska doesn't really help make this hire any more inspiring. It's clear that Conroy has maybe more confidence in him than Treliving did. Promoting assistants hasn't worked out for this organization so hopefully Huska can break the trend. I assume though that many players on the roster like Huska for Conroy to feel he's the right guy so that's a plus.
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I hear you, but it would be nice if the Flames could start developing coaches like they do prospects. I’m hoping Conroy’s approach organizationally will allow for this.
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06-10-2023, 12:19 PM
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#304
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Stang’s cousin
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I'm not excited
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06-10-2023, 12:26 PM
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#305
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
We basically need to do what New Jersey managed to in the last two seasons and completely revamp their on ice product to one that's exciting and successful after a lengthy period of chronic mediocrity and uninspiring teams.
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The Devils have had a few top three draft picks and a couple of number one draft picks though, the Flames have had none of that... During that time period the Flames were a very good team and the Devils were tearing down their team and gaining depth through the trading of assets for draft picks. The truth is that the Devils past season is due to a five year rebuild from 2017 to 2022.
Does management or the fan base have the desire to field an awful team for the next few years to get what the Devils have today.
As for this coaching decision, I guess Huska is am qualified coach. I don't know if this core has what it takes to make a run at the cup, my immediate guess is probably not but they should have enough gas in the tank to be a playoff team. The biggest issues comes down to between the pipers and what they can do with Markstrom/Vlader/Wolf. I don't know who their goaltending coach is but I can see that being an area of concern.
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06-10-2023, 12:51 PM
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#306
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Major Major
I don't really understand this iteration of players and maybe that's why I'm miffed by Huska. The last group lead by Johnny and Tkachuk needed a firm hand big dog type coach. This group out and out rejected that big dog but it may just because it contracted rabies. The only vibe I get about our current room is that I don't like it and that it's soft. I don't think Huska fixes that or any other coach really. So I basically am hoping for maximum amount of turnover. Ironically, it seems keeping Sutter was the best way to achieve that. Part of the reason I was excited for Love is the same reason some seem excited for Huska. He has built relationships with what I see as the future of the team, not the past of the team.
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My issue with Huska being a bit of the unknown is like Playfair, Ward and GlemG, they struggled to push buttons. GlenG was interviewed one time saying he asked Sutter how he got the players to play at high level, (because he didn't know).It is one thing to coach x and o's and another to motivate the team.
Seeing the young players all rally and play hard for Love is important. Young guys playing harder for him could work out as an advantage. Can Huska get the young guys to buy in along with the vets? If they were not going to choose Love I would rather they went with a more experienced winning coach. Hopefully we don’t see another Glen Gulutzan or Jeff Ward who struggled to get players motivated and then blamed it on them not playing the system.
If Huska doesn’t pan out we may still be discussing the ongoing saga with coaching hires that are still setting the team back. We wasted a lot of progress with good players Johnny, Tkachuk etc, because we couldn't get those coaching hires right.
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06-10-2023, 01:01 PM
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#307
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All I can get
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If Huska gets fired mid-season, there's always Cail MacLean on standby to take the reins.
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06-10-2023, 01:10 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
If Huska gets fired mid-season, there's always Cail MacLean on standby to take the reins.
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Nah, they're keeping Sutter on ice until everyone signs their longterm deals.
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06-10-2023, 01:12 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Article in the Athletic from Lebrun says that none of the 2024 UFA class was coming back if Sutter returned lol.
They like Huska and this may change minds. I wonder how much of that went into this move. Would be disappointing to hire someone so we can handcuff the team with more long term deals for guys outside their prime years.
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I read that as Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin specifically is who would have not stayed. I personally do not think Zadorov, Tanev, Toffoli would have had any problems staying if Sutter was still on board.
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06-10-2023, 01:15 PM
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#310
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If they wanted out get them out. Enough of the club.
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06-10-2023, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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06-10-2023, 01:28 PM
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#312
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
I read that as Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin specifically is who would have not stayed. I personally do not think Zadorov, Tanev, Toffoli would have had any problems staying if Sutter was still on board.
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Hopefully this hire is not to appease all the players and double down on Treliving’s mistakes of signing multiple players deep into their 30s
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06-10-2023, 01:29 PM
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#313
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
My issue with Huska being a bit of the unknown is like Playfair, Ward and GlemG, they struggled to push buttons...
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Are you saying that Huska also "struggles to push buttons"? How could you possibly know this?
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06-10-2023, 01:37 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I hate to break this news, but on average, the majority of coaching hires overall don’t work out.
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Wait. You mean only 1 out of 32 coaches win the cup? Or you mean all but a few coaches quit/retire before being fired? Thanks for the heads up. Tell me more.
What a dumb post.
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06-10-2023, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Are you saying that Huska also "struggles to push buttons"? How could you possibly know this?
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I remember CP had a poster, I think it was Drury18, who was extremely active in following the Heat while Huska was coach.
I could be mistaken, but I remember Drury18 having a problem with Huska's defeatist and excuse making attitude after losses.
Definitely didn't give the impression of someone who could effectively push buttons.
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06-10-2023, 01:51 PM
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#316
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Are you saying that Huska also "struggles to push buttons"? How could you possibly know this?
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I think you know what I am saying. We will have to wait and see for sure.
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06-10-2023, 01:57 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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They should have just promoted Jordan Sigalet to Head Coach.
What could go wrong?
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06-10-2023, 02:04 PM
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#318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I read that as Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin specifically is who would have not stayed. I personally do not think Zadorov, Tanev, Toffoli would have had any problems staying if Sutter was still on board.
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The article didn't mention names.
But your 3 most important free agents leaving isn't a good look if it's the coach.
Tanev and Zadorov are replaceable parts and so is Toffoli.
I don't think we should be singing any of them to long term deals just saying that bit parts staying isn't a endorsement.
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06-10-2023, 02:07 PM
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#319
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The article didn't mention names.
But your 3 most important free agents leaving isn't a good look if it's the coach.
Tanev and Zadorov are replaceable parts and so is Toffoli.
I don't think we should be singing any of them to long term deals just saying that bit parts staying isn't a endorsement.
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Well, singing to them probably isnt going to help, but I think you're vastly underrating the importance to this team of guys like Tanev and Toffoli.
Sure, they're getting long in the tooth...but who are you going to replace them with.
Last season Toffoli seemed to score highest on the GAF meter and frankly, this team routinely falls completely apart in the absence of Tanev.
Definitely problematic, but I wouldnt be dismissive of it.
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06-10-2023, 02:11 PM
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#320
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I read that as Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin specifically is who would have not stayed. I personally do not think Zadorov, Tanev, Toffoli would have had any problems staying if Sutter was still on board.
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Originally Posted by Locke
Well, singing to them probably isnt going to help, but I think you're vastly underrating the importance to this team of guys like Tanev and Toffoli.
Sure, they're getting long in the tooth...but who are you going to replace them with.
Last season Toffoli seemed to score highest on the GAF meter and frankly, this team routinely falls completely apart in the absence of Tanev.
Definitely problematic, but I wouldnt be dismissive of it.
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Good players but Hanifin plays on the top pair, Lindholm is our #1C and Backlund was the best 3rd line C in the NHL.
You with a #1 D depth down the middle.
Not taking a way from Toffoli he had a great year but we have guys in the systems that can be scorers.
Zadorov is a 3rd pairing D who makes glaring mistakes and Tanev is a warrior but he also put together with duct tape.
Like I said I'd like to trade them all minus Hanifin and get some assets but those are 3 core pieces walking.
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