06-09-2023, 07:56 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I don't need to show any examples.
The GM of the team clearly talked about the type of style he wants the team to play - structure defensively, creative with the puck offensively. Why would he hire someone who won't coach that style?
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Because he wants Huska for the defensive structure. I would bet dollars to doughnuts one of the AC hires will be to focus on the offense. One of Tanguay, Savard, or Reirden is going to be an AC. That is the only way the creative offense part makes sense.
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06-09-2023, 07:56 PM
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#202
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All I can get
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The players hated Al MacNeil too.
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06-09-2023, 08:03 PM
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#203
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
As opposed to Sven Baertchi. Emile Poirier. Morgan Klimchuk. Hunter Shinkaruk.
Spencer Foo. These are all guys who has promising upside that didn't develop under Huska's watch. So he hit on one guy.
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I am going out on a limb here to say that every one of these guys reached their potential. Of course, for Baertschi, that was limited by injuries, and for Poirier, it was his mental health.
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06-09-2023, 08:04 PM
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#204
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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06-09-2023, 08:04 PM
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#205
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
As opposed to Sven Baertchi. Emile Poirier. Morgan Klimchuk. Hunter Shinkaruk.
Spencer Foo. These are all guys who has promising upside that didn't develop under Huska's watch. So he hit on one guy.
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Baertschi got derailed by injuries. Poirier had substance abuse issues. Klimchuk and Foo were always mediocre prospects they just got hyped because there wasn't much else in the system
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06-09-2023, 08:06 PM
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#206
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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This is Conroy’s first decision as new General Manager, so I hope it’s a positive step for the organization.
Either way, it Conroy’s first impact on this team… time will tell.
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06-09-2023, 08:08 PM
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#207
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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If defense was Huska's main responsibility for this team over his 5 years as an assistant coach then I understand why they'd want to keep him.
Over that time:
Goals Against Per Game: 8th
Penalty Kill: 6th
And outside of 21-22 they had average or below average goaltending that entire time
I do hope Love was willing to take an assistant role though.
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06-09-2023, 08:09 PM
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#208
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Lifetime Suspension
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Honestly the offensive side is more about allowing your players to be creative and take chances not a lot you can teach on that side outside of points of attack and giving them the freedom.
The defensive structure and NZ is the most teaching you can teach that part of the game. Offensively it's allowing the talent and IQ to take over.
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06-09-2023, 08:14 PM
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#209
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Saskatchewan
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Originally Posted by cral12
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06-09-2023, 08:15 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I don't need to show any examples.
The GM of the team clearly talked about the type of style he wants the team to play - structure defensively, creative with the puck offensively. Why would he hire someone who won't coach that style?
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I mean defensive structure, I think every coach who has coached hockey preaches that.
Offensive creativity, well I guess that’s in the eye of the beholder a little bit. People complain that the Flames didn’t practice 3 on 3 or the PP enough, isn’t that preaching creativity?
I guess I don’t really know what offensive creativity means. Does it mean no forechecking structure and support? There’s lots of players on this team who don’t have a ton of offensive talent so what does creativity mean for them? Does creativity mean Kadri gets to keep playing his selfish brand of hockey?
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06-09-2023, 08:16 PM
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#211
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Because he wants Huska for the defensive structure. I would bet dollars to doughnuts one of the AC hires will be to focus on the offense. One of Tanguay, Savard, or Reirden is going to be an AC. That is the only way the creative offense part makes sense.
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So Conroy is (presumably, nothing is official yet) going to hire a new head coach who can't or won't coach the style he wants, so he's going to hire an offensive minded assistant (who coaches under direction of the head coach) to coach that aspect of the team. Meanwhile, the head coach is just going to concentrate on the defensive aspect of the team.
I don't think so.
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06-09-2023, 08:17 PM
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#212
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by icarus
Late to the thread - so Weekes's cousin is Huska?
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And they are married to Stang and Wally
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06-09-2023, 08:24 PM
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#213
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by cral12
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So we need to trade for this dude?
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06-09-2023, 08:30 PM
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#214
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I guess I don’t really know what offensive creativity means. Does it mean no forechecking structure and support? There’s lots of players on this team who don’t have a ton of offensive talent so what does creativity mean for them? Does creativity mean Kadri gets to keep playing his selfish brand of hockey?
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Conroy and the next head coach could answer that a lot better than me, but imo I think you'll see more east-west than north-south movement, especially after gaining the blueline. Minimal dump and chase. Less low quality shots just for the sake of getting pucks on net. Outshooting teams regularly doesn't mean anything if the shot quality is poor. It also needs to bleed into the PP as well which was predictable, boring and ineffective. You have an elite offensive winger in Huberdeau - put him with the proper linemates and let him do what he wants with the puck in the offensive zone.
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06-09-2023, 08:34 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
So Conroy is (presumably, nothing is official yet) going to hire a new head coach who can't or won't coach the style he wants, so he's going to hire an offensive minded assistant (who coaches under direction of the head coach) to coach that aspect of the team. Meanwhile, the head coach is just going to concentrate on the defensive aspect of the team.
I don't think so.
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Ok, we will see. Let's see if Conroy brings in one of the guys I mentioned to take care of the offense and PP. If he doesn't I will totally admit I was wrong.
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06-09-2023, 08:34 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I wonder if they'll bring in Dan Lambert as an AC? He was Huska's AC in Kelowna and was recently let go by the Predators, where he ran the PP.
Huska and Lambert seemed to be a good combo during their time with the Rockets.
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06-09-2023, 08:34 PM
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#217
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Can't speak for anyone else, but I feel a bit underwhelmed...like when Ward was hired on as the head coach. Huska's been around for 5 years as an assistant which has pros and cons: continuity cuts both ways.
hard to say...of course we won't know until we see if there are any changes on the staff as well, as that could also have a positive effect.
we'll see how the team is different under his leadership
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06-09-2023, 08:36 PM
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#218
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Conroy and the next head coach could answer that a lot better than me, but imo I think you'll see more east-west than north-south movement, especially after gaining the blueline. Minimal dump and chase. Less low quality shots just for the sake of getting pucks on net. Outshooting teams regularly doesn't mean anything if the shot quality is poor. It also needs to bleed into the PP as well which was predictable, boring and ineffective. You have an elite offensive winger in Huberdeau - put him with the proper linemates and let him do what he wants with the puck in the offensive zone.
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Yeah if you listen to his interview he touches on it.
On ice it can seem like you did things right but you get thr analytics and results and it looks bad or vice versa and you need to go back and look at the tape and see what looks right.
I think Darryl put to much value in corsi and we need to dive deeper. Just because you toss a quick shot on net that wins you the the shot share doesn't mean you owned the puck.
It's also interesting saying he would love to spend time with Steve Kerr and I was going to say that holding the puck making that extra pass and screen and cut would do wonders for us.
The warrior's are so good for that extra pass and opening guys up for easy looks.
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06-09-2023, 08:41 PM
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#219
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Scoring Winger
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Agreed, there was just something wrong with Sutters appreciation for shots on goal. A team needs to be more dynamic than just pucks on the net and chance percentages
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06-09-2023, 08:43 PM
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#220
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#1 Goaltender
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Just catching up on this thread now and I’ve got to say I’m pretty surprised by all of the negativity in here.
Firstly, we as fans have such little insight into evaluating a coach. We can look at past records, players developed, interviews, etc but most of us have zero clue what happens behind closed doors.
A lot of folks here seem upset that they are going with Huska over Love, but they have followed very similar paths, just Huska has more experience. Love has never served in the NHL in any capacity.
Our defensive play and PK have been pretty great under Huska considering our goaltending as previously pointed out. If he can keep that going while giving our top players more ice time then I think we’ll all be happy. Conroy mentioned coach and GM being on the same page so that’s a good sign.
Huska has a history of earning the respect of young players. Everything I’ve heard seems really positive from the players. Given all of the dramatics about the exit interviews, I think it’s a given the players didn’t have anything negative to say about him.
Anyway, I just don’t understand the anger coming from so many. No guarantee Huska will be great, but I think there is plenty of upside here.
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