Al Gore in Person

[MelBridgeman]

Sure canadians can do things, i didnt drive a car for 5 years, because i didnt need one. I could afford one, but choose to walk, cab, rent or bike.

US blames Canada for everything

American tendency to blame Canada for problems. For example, some Americans believe the terrorists behind the September 11, 2001 attacks entered the US from Canada, although it is evident that they did not [1]. Powerful officials in the State of New York, as well as New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, initially said the cause of the 2003 North America blackout was in Canada[2] , but it turned out to be in Ohio[3] . Fox News anchor and journalist Bill O'Reilly has said in the past that Canada's social liberalism is a model for the "secular War on Christmas"[4] among other socially leftist nations. Greenpeace also used the term "Blame Canada" in a viral marketing push to encourage the public to protest against Canada's stance on high-seas bottom trawling.

Several prominent politicians, most notably Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel, in opposition to the U.S. occupation of Iraq, has recommended withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq and instead using them on the Canadian border as he perceives the threat of Canadian border crossings to be more serious to U.S. national security and that the porous US-Canadian border is a more imminent threat even though there has been no evidence that that is the case. [1]

I have no problem with what he said
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[flamingchina]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

I've heard a couple times that surface temperatures on Mars have gone up at a simiar rate. I haven't looked around that much but has anyone seen research on this?

well, here are some links I've found:
http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Glo...s_Too_999.html
http://motls.blogspot.com/2006/05/gl...n-jupiter.html

Others can contradict if they want, these are just the relevant google searches.

[MarchHare]

Far as I'm concerned, it is still up in the air whether or not humans are the sole cause of global warming.

The earth has gone through climate change before...

If you had watched Gore's film, you would have known that he acknowledges the fact that there have been been multiple warming and cooling periods before. The crux of his argument isn't whether humans are the sole cause of global warming or not, it's that CO2 emissions caused by humans are increasing the mean temperature of the earth at an accelerated rate that would otherwise not occur naturally.

[La Flames Fan]

I have to laugh whenever the name Al Gore gets raised. Inevitably someone always has to mention how many planes, cars, SUVS and gas guzzling vehicles he arrived with, attack his person and generally ignore the reason he's in a particular city. It's too bad really, I believe he has a good message to deliver.

Global Warming makes people passionate, both ways. On one side you've got the people who believe it is a real problem and needs to be dealt with. On the other side you've got the people who, no matter what, will maintain that it is a cyclical occurence in the Earth's timespan and basically suck it up, it's fine.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure those SUVS he arrives in are standard for any former public official who a lot of people don't like. Thus you've got bullet proof glass etc...Don't know how safe you'd be in a Prius with some 3 inch glass.

It's getting really petty now that whenever you read anything on Al Gore, someone will always take their shot at him and ignore WHY he's there.

I like Al.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

I have to laugh whenever the name Al Gore gets raised. Inevitably someone always has to mention how many planes, cars, SUVS and gas guzzling vehicles he arrived with, attack his person and generally ignore the reason he's in a particular city. It's too bad really, I believe he has a good message to deliver.

Global Warming makes people passionate, both ways. On one side you've got the people who believe it is a real problem and needs to be dealt with. On the other side you've got the people who, no matter what, will maintain that it is a cyclical occurence in the Earth's timespan and basically suck it up, it's fine.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure those SUVS he arrives in are standard for any former public official who a lot of people don't like. Thus you've got bullet proof glass etc...Don't know how safe you'd be in a Prius with some 3 inch glass.

It's getting really petty now that whenever you read anything on Al Gore, someone will always take their shot at him and ignore WHY he's there.

I like Al.

###. Basically it seems that people forgot the phrase "don't shoot the messenger".

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

It's getting really petty now that whenever you read anything on Al Gore, someone will always take their shot at him and ignore WHY he's there.

I like Al.

He's there for something like $20K an hour, lets not kid oursleves.

That said I understand the presentation was pretty nicely tailored to the Calgary crowd and he did spend at least a little time trying to accomodate our market before, after, and in his message.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

I have to laugh whenever the name Al Gore gets raised. Inevitably someone always has to mention how many planes, cars, SUVS and gas guzzling vehicles he arrived with, attack his person and generally ignore the reason he's in a particular city. It's too bad really, I believe he has a good message to deliver.

Global Warming makes people passionate, both ways. On one side you've got the people who believe it is a real problem and needs to be dealt with. On the other side you've got the people who, no matter what, will maintain that it is a cyclical occurence in the Earth's timespan and basically suck it up, it's fine.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure those SUVS he arrives in are standard for any former public official who a lot of people don't like. Thus you've got bullet proof glass etc...Don't know how safe you'd be in a Prius with some 3 inch glass.

It's getting really petty now that whenever you read anything on Al Gore, someone will always take their shot at him and ignore WHY he's there.

I like Al.

Let's say we a plane crashed on a deserted island, and the passengers were only able to recover one box of food from the plane. Al Gore would be the guy stuffing his face with pie while telling everyone else they had to ration.

It's kind of hard to take a guy seriously when he doesn't adhere to his own beliefs.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Let's say we a plane crashed on a deserted island, and the passengers were only able to recover one box of food from the plane. Al Gore would be the guy stuffing his face with pie while telling everyone else they had to ration.

It's kind of hard to take a guy seriously when he doesn't adhere to his own beliefs.

Yes this may or may not be true. But if this guy flew in economy and rode his bike to the hall everyone would say he was a crackpot and not listen! Not too many staunch environmentalists who adhere to all of their beliefs are going to be taken seriously.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by Slava

Yes this may or may not be true. But if this guy flew in economy and rode his bike to the hall everyone would say he was a crackpot and not listen! Not too many staunch environmentalists who adhere to all of their beliefs are going to be taken seriously.

The real reason is there are way too many practical and security concerns for somebody with the stature of Al Gore to ride in anything but a private jet. Same with the convoy of cars.

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Let's say we a plane crashed on a deserted island, and the passengers were only able to recover one box of food from the plane. Al Gore would be the guy stuffing his face with pie while telling everyone else they had to ration.

It's kind of hard to take a guy seriously when he doesn't adhere to his own beliefs.

Ah, but where would he bury the survivors?

I think that's a little harsh to be honest.

Tell me, how should he get around all over the contitent?

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by La Flames Fan

Tell me, how should he get around all over the contitent?

In all honesty, he probably has no say at all in his transport detail, as it's arranged by the Secret Service. Even if he wanted to drive across the country in a SmartCar, they wouldn't let him for his own protection.

It really is a silly argument to try to discredit Gore's message by pointing out that he travels in a convoy of large vehicles. Opponents to his views on global warming ought to know better than to resort to such a ridiculous attack. If you disagree with his message, attack the science, not the man.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Sure canadians can do things, i didnt drive a car for 5 years, because i didnt need one. I could afford one, but choose to walk, cab, rent or bike.

US blames Canada for everything





I have no problem with what he said

But what does any of that have to do with Al Gore?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Let's say we a plane crashed on a deserted island, and the passengers were only able to recover one box of food from the plane. Al Gore would be the guy stuffing his face with pie while telling everyone else they had to ration.

It's kind of hard to take a guy seriously when he doesn't adhere to his own beliefs.

Would the fact that Gore is stuffing his face make his suggestion that the food should be rationed any less valid? I don't really see the connection... you're saying he's right, but a hypocrite. What's the more important thing, impending environmental catastrophy, or the fact that Gore's car takes gas?

Sometimes I think people like to focus on the small picture to purposely avoid adressing the bigger one.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Would the fact that Gore is stuffing his face make his suggestion that the food should be rationed any less valid? I don't really see the connection... you're saying he's right, but a hypocrite. What's the more important thing, impending environmental catastrophy, or the fact that Gore's car takes gas?

Sometimes I think people like to focus on the small picture to purposely avoid adressing the bigger one.

lol
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[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Would the fact that Gore is stuffing his face make his suggestion that the food should be rationed any less valid? I don't really see the connection... you're saying he's right, but a hypocrite. What's the more important thing, impending environmental catastrophy, or the fact that Gore's car takes gas?

Sometimes I think people like to focus on the small picture to purposely avoid adressing the bigger one.

Post of the Day!!

An seemingly simple thing that happens in everyday life, and twice as often we it hsa to do with Al Gore it seems.

I'm not a big Al Gore guy but I appreciate he is trying to do good. And I definately don't think he deserves all the critism that he gets ... simply because he rolls with a few cars that use gasoline.

So long as each individual that slams him is dedicating the same amount of time to public issues and not private pursiuts then that's fine ... however I doubt that would include too many people.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

lol

I assume by these collection of letters you're saying something? I'm just working with the example given, I'm not assuring Calgarypuck of impending environmental disaster.

LOL

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

He's there for something like $20K an hour, lets not kid oursleves.

The guy is fabulously wealthy to begin with. I find it hard to believe he's in it for the money.

If money is all that he's after he could scare up a better gig than this and he wouldn't have to take all the abuse. I would imagine someone with his name, resume, history and influence could get just about any cushy job he wanted, or he could be collecting even fatter paycheques going around the world saying this global warming stuff is hogwash. I hear the fossil fuel industries have a couple bucks lying around.

"Environmental Crusader" isn't the most lucrative job title, though I do admit it looks like he's doing okay at it.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The guy is fabulously wealthy to begin with. I find it hard to believe he's in it for the money.

If money is all that he's after he could scare up a better gig than this and he wouldn't have to take all the abuse. I would imagine someone with his name, resume, history and influence could get just about any cushy job he wanted, or he could be collecting even fatter paycheques going around the world saying this global warming stuff is hogwash. I hear the fossil fuel industries have a couple bucks lying around.

"Environmental Crusader" isn't the most lucrative job title, though I do admit it looks like he's doing okay at it.

The cynic in me just doesn't buy that any politician jets around the world on a huge tab for idealistic reasons. The message is a means, not an end.

But, you make a good point. Can't argue that.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

In all honesty, he probably has no say at all in his transport detail, as it's arranged by the Secret Service. Even if he wanted to drive across the country in a SmartCar, they wouldn't let him for his own protection.

It really is a silly argument to try to discredit Gore's message by pointing out that he travels in a convoy of large vehicles. Opponents to his views on global warming ought to know better than to resort to such a ridiculous attack. If you disagree with his message, attack the science, not the man.

I wasn't thinking about his modes of transportation so much as the giant mansion he lives in that uses as much power as 30 regular houses.

I'm in general favour of reducing pollution of all kinds, but perhaps we should trim the fat starting with Gore and his ilk rather then have them pleading for the common man to tighten his belt yet again.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I wasn't thinking about his modes of transportation so much as the giant mansion he lives in that uses as much power as 30 regular houses.

I'm in general favour of reducing pollution of all kinds, but perhaps we should trim the fat starting with Gore and his ilk rather then have them pleading for the common man to tighten his belt yet again.

How many times does does it need to be pointed out that this is a red herring?

Similar to the way the C-Train uses "green-energy" and people at home can pay extra for green-energy, so does Gore. FoxNews

Kreider said the 60- to 70-year-old house is undergoing renovations to add solar panels to reduce consumption off the power grid, and energy-efficient windows have been installed. The home also uses "compact" fluorescent light bulbs and other energy-saving technology, the Gores drive hybrids and participate in two programs that indirectly reduce carbon emissions.
One is through the local power company — the massive Tennessee Valley Authority — which runs the Green Power Switch program that uses some renewable energy like wind and solar power. The second is through a so-called carbon credit program, in which the Gores pay money to invest in a third party to reduce one ton of carbon emissions for every ton of carbon the Gores emit.