2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The problem isn't that the Flames supporting cast aren't good.

It is that three key players massively underperformed. Kadri, Huberdeau and Marklstrom. 23.5 Million worth of the cap next season, or 27% of the space.

Mangiapane definitely underperformed. Lindholm could have been better.

However, the Flames actually had pretty great depth last year. Backlund, Toffoli, Dube, Coleman, and Ruzika (when got to play) were all solid. And the Flames could be injecting even more depth with guys like Duehr and Pelletier looking ready.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

I wonder if the Kings entertain a trade for Turcotte. He's been pushed down the depth chart a bit due to his injury last year and the play of Byfield and Kaliev. During trade deadline it was rumored a couple teams checked in on his availability from the Kings.

If we trade Lindholm/Backlund or both, we may need to restock our C with a good prospect and Turcotte might fit that bill. Perhaps a deal to send Toffoli back to LA? I know Kings probably need a Dman more than a winger plus not too often do teams trade within their division so it's likely a pipe dream on my part.

A good target for sure. Shows flashes of great skills but is inconsistent. I think he still has the potential to pop in the right circumstances.


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[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I don't know how Kadri massively underperformed. If you expected a 90 point player that's on you for having unrealistic expectations. What we missed from Kadri wasn't points it was that gritty play and a guy that plays with a chips on his shoulder.

You said it yourself - it was his two hundred foot game, and complete unwillingness to commit to playing a team game that made his season so massively disappointing. It's not a coincidence he was a team worst -19.

Kadri can be so much better, and likely will be this upcoming season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

You said it yourself - it was his two hundred foot game, and complete unwillingness to commit to playing a team game that made his season so massively disappointing. It's not a coincidence he was a team worst -19.

Kadri can be so much better, and likely will be this upcoming season.

That's what I meant but numbers was I'm not sure we should be expecting him to put up big numbers.

He also changes the match ups freeing up Lindholm and Backlund a bit but player usage was a disaster last season it's hard to really grade anyone properly.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not sure where this belongs but Mark Stone confirmed to Lebrun he was only open to singing prior to July 1st with Vegas. That's why the offer was so bad not sure why they tried to rip us off at the time.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not sure where this belongs but Mark Stone confirmed to Lebrun he was only open to singing prior to July 1st with Vegas. That's why the offer was so bad not sure why they tried to rip us off at the time.

Lebrun did say he thought there were 2-3 other teams involved that thought he might sign an extension with them but in the end it didn't work.

In the end I've still heard Flames were willing to do the deal on that Sunday night, had agreed upon a trade, but then realized that Stone wasn't going to extend and it fell apart.

Imagine giving up the assets for Stone to just have him walk to Vegas in the offseason for free that year then anyway...that would have sucked.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That's what I meant but numbers was I'm not sure we should be expecting him to put up big numbers.

He also changes the match ups freeing up Lindholm and Backlund a bit but player usage was a disaster last season it's hard to really grade anyone properly.

I agree.

I'd be perfectly content paying 7M for a 25-30 goal, 60-70 point Kadri so long as he plays with that fiery nature and commits to a strong two foot game which he has shown capable of doing in the past.

It's hard to pin point exactly why he looked so disinterested and unhappy, but let's hope a coaching change, and a significantly less crazy off-season help. I think it will.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Lebrun did say he thought there were 2-3 other teams involved that thought he might sign an extension with them but in the end it didn't work.

In the end I've still heard Flames were willing to do the deal on that Sunday night, had agreed upon a trade, but then realized that Stone wasn't going to extend and it fell apart.

Imagine giving up the assets for Stone to just have him walk to Vegas in the offseason for free that year then anyway...that would have sucked.

It's always fun to look back at the what if we did get him and just basing it on how we would have performed with him in the lineup.

Not sure it's enough to offset the Avs adding Makar.

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023...rom-ducks.html

Gibson for Markstrom?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Lebrun did say he thought there were 2-3 other teams involved that thought he might sign an extension with them but in the end it didn't work.

In the end I've still heard Flames were willing to do the deal on that Sunday night, had agreed upon a trade, but then realized that Stone wasn't going to extend and it fell apart.

Imagine giving up the assets for Stone to just have him walk to Vegas in the offseason for free that year then anyway...that would have sucked.

Yes, the story was Stone wouldn't even speak to the Flames (and two other teams including Winnipeg IIRC) about an extension, and he was all over getting one done with Vegas. That killed the deal.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023...rom-ducks.html

Gibson for Markstrom?

I'd rather keep Markstrom

[Bonded]

DeBrincat on the block. Could see the Flames taking a swing there if they re-tool

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

DeBrincat on the block. Could see the Flames taking a swing there if they re-tool

He has the Matthew bridge - He's looking for that 8.5+x7/8 otherwise, just sign your Arb and become UFA in a year.

Carolina if they want a goal scorer has all the money.

I personally think he ends back up in Chicago.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

He has the Matthew bridge - He's looking for that 8.5+x7/8 otherwise, just sign your Arb and become UFA in a year.

Carolina if they want a goal scorer has all the money.

I personally think he ends back up in Chicago.

If he is willing to sign here I can see them doing it. Not that they should. I’d be surprised if he ended back up on Chicago. Hurricanes are interesting but they’ll be tight against the cap in 24/25. They got all the money this upcoming season.

[Royle9]

We don’t have the space to add a DeBrincat, and I’m not sure how much he would move the needle for us long term. He’s more of a complimentary piece, and we’ve got quite a few of those already.

Mang was supposed to be turning into that last year but it didn’t happen, maybe he can bounce back.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd rather keep Markstrom

Why?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Buff

Why?

I’d rather ride out the shorter contract. Gibson hasn’t looked good for a while.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’d rather ride out the shorter contract. Gibson hasn’t looked good for a while.

Nonsense. His team is garbage.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Nonsense. His team is garbage.

Eh. We’ll see if a playoff team actually trades for him. He won’t waive to come here anyways

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’d rather ride out the shorter contract. Gibson hasn’t looked good for a while.

Agreed. Especially when the flames have arguably the best goalie prospect in the league seemingly ready to make the jump.


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