[News] Treliving named Leafs GM

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

He signed a 21 year old to a bridge contract after that kid had a break out career season.

He didn't back himself into any corners. The next two seasons Tkachuks production dipped, if Treliving had signed Tkachuk to some monstrous 8 year extension based off one near point per game season the same people whining now would have been whining for two years straight after Tkachuks production dipped. That bridge contract was a perfectly reasonable move at the time, but unfortunately COVID happened and it helped tip the scales for Tkachuk to want to leave Canada.

Everybody is always a genius when they look at things in hindsight to criticize someone else.

Except Treliving did in fact back himself into a corner. Why are you holding onto Frolik when you could be shedding some cap and giving one of your all star wingers an 8 year deal? I firmly believe Tkachuk would have been willing to accept an 8 year deal starting with an 8 and we'd still have him. Instead, Treliving, as others have mentioned, wasn't really a guy that thought about the future, he was a "now" GM. Hence why we always spent up to the cap with middling players and our stars getting hurt for raises in the long run. It wasn't until we lost Johnny, traded Tkachuk, and dumped Monahan for a 1st that we finally had cap space again, only for Treliving to use it all up for Huberdeau and Weegar's contracts. Lucic's contract finally expiring? Doesn't matter, Huberdeau takes it all. We're in the same mess, and it's because of Treliving.

[Toonage]

Over under on "process"? Setting the line at 5

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Leafs probably recruited him, that’s why he quit the Flames.

But that’s what losers do, they attract losers.

Treliving inherited a decent team, by the time he is done, they would have nothing left except overpaid vets

Do you intentionally use such negative language? Calling BT a loser?

It is just such a ####tttty mindset.

[Toonage]

1 Process right out of the gate

There's 2

Shanahan drops 3 in a row but they don't count (clearly influenced by Treliving though)

Thats all for Treliving, just 2. He's a changed man!

[Steve Bozek]

Anyone counting how many times “process” is said? I’ve only heard one so far.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Do you intentionally use such negative language? Calling BT a loser?

It is just such a ####tttty mindset.

When you are so successful, everyone else is a loser in comparison.

[Ashasx]

it always impresses me how well Treliving comes across in press conferences.

[btimbit]

Shanny blowing Tre's "Process" numbers out of the water

[8sPOT]

I truly wish Treliving all the best, not a Leafs fan at all. But am definitely a Treliving fan.

I'm getting similar vibes to Connies presser, its all about the team of people around you. Its not just the GM.

And nice little Gio jab there, "good to see him playing at 75, not many do".

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by 8sPOT

I truly wish Treliving all the best, not a Leafs fan at all. But am definitely a Treliving fan.

I'm getting similar vibes to Connies presser, its all about the team of people around you. Its not just the GM.

And nice little Gio jab there, "good to see him playing at 75, not many do".

He should have said "I think Gio was supposed to be here, but he's taking a dump"

[bluejays]

Treliving came across as professional. BS without saying anything. They also cut the Q&A after what? One or two questions? Hilarious. Anyway, he seemed pretty non committal to anything except saying he needed to talk with people but they were world class. I doubt they want to spend severance money nor lose staff right now so I think he keeps most. Regarding the players I do believe he’ll kick tires but he probably doesn’t know where he’ll go with trades until he scouts the market for the value.

[dino7c]

Team is run by comitee, Brad is the PR man and will do a good job at that

I noticed he mentioned the Panthers being one Pens win away from missing the playoffs, found that interesting

[bluejays]

Toronto media is tough if you’re a newspaper reader. The press questions are softballs lobbed. Totally spineless most days. Gone are the days of leading questions or journalists asking questions the fans are thinking.

[Bingo]

I hope for the best with Conroy, and I love his energy and Flames history.

But just keep getting this sinking feeling that Calgary just went through 9 years of a new GM learning on the job only to lose him when he's learned from the bumps and bruises.

Toronto gets a guy that never been fired.

Somewhat interesting for those that suggested Treliving was average and wouldn't be employed again.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Team is run by comitee, Brad is the PR man and will do a good job at that

I noticed he mentioned the Panthers being one Pens win away from missing the playoffs, found that interesting

Yup. Pens lost to Chicago. We lost to Chicago too that week and that costed us.

Those wins got Chicago Bedard

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Somewhat interesting for those that suggested Treliving was average and wouldn't be employed again.

Definitely. Although I do get that it's weird as a Flames fan to see a former GM get another GM job, haha

Tre is incredibly smart though. People will be quick to jump on me for liking the guy and point out some not so great moves, but find me a GM that never made a bad move. He has such a good reputation around the league for a reason

I love Conroy and I'm excited to see what he does, but I'll miss Tre.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I hope for the best with Conroy, and I love his energy and Flames history.

But just keep getting this sinking feeling that Calgary just went through 9 years of a new GM learning on the job only to lose him when he's learned from the bumps and bruises.

Toronto gets a guy that never been fired.

Somewhat interesting for those that suggested Treliving was average and wouldn't be employed again.

Conny was working at Treliving's side for all those bumps and bruises. If he didn't learn from them then I would question why he was hired as GM. I don't see much of a loss from Treliving to Conroy if we are talking lessons learned from the last 9 years. The pause for concern is going from a first time GM to another first time GM as Conroy has never been the man before and he's likely to make his own mistakes unrelated to those of the past regime like any first time GM may. It's impossible to say where this is going to go as it could be a disaster but it's not impossible that he does as good or better than Treliving.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Toonage

My one gripe (well, one of I should say) about Treliving going to Toronto is how I'm hearing more from Toronto media about how he did such a good job with Tkachuk after beinng "backed into a corner."

Treliving backed himself into that corner though. No one ever mentions that.

I listen to the Toronto media throughout the day and in the morning and what they've been talking about are all the cons they've identified from Tre's time with the Flames (which included Tre creating the situations he found himself in last summer), but also the pros, such as being able to get a mostly universally lauded deal in a bad situation (that yes, he created), along with other things.

So, I'd disagree with your take.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I hope for the best with Conroy, and I love his energy and Flames history.

But just keep getting this sinking feeling that Calgary just went through 9 years of a new GM learning on the job only to lose him when he's learned from the bumps and bruises.

Toronto gets a guy that never been fired.

Somewhat interesting for those that suggested Treliving was average and wouldn't be employed again.

I get what you mean but Conroy was side by side with him, a lot of people didn't want Conroy because they thought he would be a cheaper Treliving.

I think hearing Conroy he learned from the mistakes Treliving made and learned just as much as Treliving did.

Could turn out to be a win win for the FLames and Leafs.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I hope for the best with Conroy, and I love his energy and Flames history.

But just keep getting this sinking feeling that Calgary just went through 9 years of a new GM learning on the job only to lose him when he's learned from the bumps and bruises.

Toronto gets a guy that never been fired.

Somewhat interesting for those that suggested Treliving was average and wouldn't be employed again.

It's funny I feel the complete opposite. I see a guy in Treliving who came into Calgary and the first thing he talked about in his press conference was "identity" and I don't think he ever established one.

His coaching hires were suspect. At first the coach was too hard on the players, then too easy on the players, then too hard, none of the coaches he hired besides Darryl were any good.

He has never solidified the goalie situation in Calgary. Even with Markstrom right now none of us are sure that he is the answer in net. Yes he had one good year. 1 solid year of goaltending out of 9 years as a GM?

His record bleeding away picks and his refusal to look at cap flexibility as an asset were very frustrating. Constantly plugging holes that he created.

He inherited a great situation in Toronto with a far more talented roster. But again he will have to find a goalie and perhaps a coach, two things that he is not very good at.