[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

We need to understand what compells people to vote for a party that doesn’t have their interest in mind. You can’t take action or educate if you don’t understand the root cause.

Reeducation camps.

[Matata]

Perhaps the Alberta/Quebec dynamic is impacted by the $5-10B we send them every year? Is there anything more french than displaying no more than mild contempt for the people you have looted?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

It surprises me that traditional conservatives like die hard flamez are so vehemently defending their choice to vote UCP. These UCP are simply NOT the traditional brand of Alberta or Canadian conservatism. Smith is anti-truth and anti-science and borderline anti-democratic. They are nothing like the Jim Prentice's of old.

I would have thought most conservatives who voted UCP this time held their nose while doing so, not beat their chest proudly on the internet that they voted for them.

It vexes me.

Spoiler!

I would have loved to have voted for a moderate conservative party with sound fiscal policy and common sense social policy. That just doesn't exist here anymore.

Anyone that I know of who voted UCP did so holding their nose, and they ain't bragging about it. Of course, they all seem pretty darn misinformed about actual NDP governing history or their present policies. And they all seem to think Smith actually won't harm their own industries despite what the COC and other business groups have said.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Matata

Perhaps the Alberta/Quebec dynamic is impacted by the $5-10B we send them every year?

Is that what is happening?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

This is exactly what the UCP wants. The more educated a populace is, the less likely they are to vote conservative. Ignorance is the lifeblood of the UCP

And the more BS we get about public education and fear stoking about culture wars, the more home schooling we will see which will further reduce education and train new generations of party loyalists.

[MotoRacer]

Danielle speech was fire



https://youtu.be/H-kRC-R9dec

[Matata]

nmd

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Matata

Perhaps the Alberta/Quebec dynamic is impacted by the $5-10B we send them every year?

We’ll likely be sending them more after we lower our tax rates.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matata

Perhaps the Alberta/Quebec dynamic is impacted by the $5-10B we send them every year?

I don't think so. No one ever even talks about that. They prefer "freedom" and "no communism".

If they do complain about equalization they never mention provinces who get a lot more per capita, nor do they complain about Kenney's formula.

EDIT: and "we" don't send Quebec anything if "we" is Alberta.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Is that what is happening?

Yet another entry in the "I have no idea how Equalization actually works, but I sure am angry about it!" file.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Yet another entry in the "I have no idea how Equalization actually works, but I sure am angry about it!" file.

I was kinda hoping I could get them to show me some math.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Matata

Perhaps the Alberta/Quebec dynamic is impacted by the $5-10B we send them every year? Is there anything more french than displaying no more than mild contempt for the people you have looted?

Danielle should just stop writing cheques to Quebec then. Why is the government of Alberta sending a 10 Billion cheque to Quebec every year?

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Muta

You totally do give a ####, lol. That's why you're still here.

I’m here for the entertainment purposes. You are performing admirably.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Yet another entry in the "I have no idea how Equalization actually works, but I sure am angry about it!" file.

"Alberta" doesn't send money to Quebec.

But "Albertans" certainly do, via the fed's treasury.

[Matata]

"But the money goes into a pot and is fairly distributed" lolz.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I’m here for the entertainment purposes. You are performing admirably.

Nah, you're here because you totally do give a #### lol.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This thread has really brought out the ugliness in people, but that's what politics do.

We can't help it. It's just the way our brains are wired.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/03/healt...ain/index.html

I suppose there's some tips in here people can follow in hopes of keeping things more civil.

The key is to identify the other person’s values, even if they differ from your own.

If you want to end a conversation before it gets heated, simply agree to disagree, Daniel Post Senning, an etiquette expert from the Emily Post Institute, said in November.

“You are also not obligated to have these conversations,” Senning said. “If you are willing to cede the last word or acknowledge that your opinions may differ, it’s very hard to argue with that.”

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It IS possible to be a centrist/leftie and vote UCP. I did it. I am pretty liberal in my views and lifestyle/relationships.

I just think the UCP is better economically for our Province and my Municipality. Our MLA, who lives in my actual constituency, is a better representative than the NDP option.

It is possible to be pragmatic when it comes to a voting decision.

All politicians are kind of the worst, just pick the ones that you think will do the best job for you locally and represent your communities needs and values, regardless of their party, is my mindset.

Everything else is just message board/social media outrage and fodder!

You can claim to be liberal/centrist/lefties but you voted for a party that disagrees with you. Very strongly I might add.

And you did it because money.

Money > social equality.

[Aarongavey]

I think I learned this correctly over the years in Alberta, but it looks like the oil market is reacting to the UCP government’s re-election, WTI is down over 4% today. I am pretty sure I was always taught that Canadian governments, both provincial and federal, can affect the price of oil.

[Matata]

imagine alberta with 5 new arenas every year and quebecers payin for their own child care.....