[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[jar_e]

Is there any reporting or sourcing on these new Trudeau policies coming down the pipe that Smith mentioned? Was only half listening and didn’t catch the actual policy points she said he was gonna implement.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

When I see low turnouts like that, for me it means a vote for "none of the above". A lot of those people probably don't like either party/leader, and disliking one more than the other doesn't motivate people to vote. It actually does the opposite. Liking a party, leader or platform is what gets more people out to vote.

There is definitely a lot of "none of the above" sentiment baked into the low turnout number but another thing that needs to looked at is why the NDP has such a loud bark but seemingly no bite. There was so much promotion leading up to election day about conservatives lending their vote and saying good things to door knockers and all the lawn signs but when the day comes it doesn't seem like the voters are showing up. At 8pm tonight there was a lot of optimism from NDP insiders but that didn't work out for them.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Is there any reporting or sourcing on these new Trudeau policies coming down the pipe that Smith mentioned? Was only half listening and didn’t catch the actual policy points she said he was gonna implement.

I work in the industry and this is the first I've heard of it.

If true, that's it for the energy only market.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Yamer

The honest questions is that politics has given way to something more akin to sports fandom. It's entirely irrational at this point.

And no, I have no practical solution at top of mind to change it.

Rachel Notley is the perfect person to lead this party despite the outcome.

She’s definitely the best public servant that I can think of provincially. Does she have the strategy to win elections? I dunno. She won one for the NDP, which as a guy who’s almost 60 and has lived here all my life seemed just impossible.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by zamler

For those that voted for Notley, should she step down?

That's your interpretation. If you don't like what he posts don't read.

My interpretation informed my decision to put them on ignore, so I don't read their dribble. When people talk about them I feel free to espouse my intepretation towards the community about them.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Dion

That's part of what happens when politics are discussed. Things get heated and posters sometimes say things they regret later. That wasn't a comment I expected from Ozy.

Do they? I have serious doubts I'd suggest they are not saying how they really feel.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1663400999216893952

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Torture

Looks like Banff-Kananaskis still in play despite being called for Rosin. She's behind Elmeligi in votes atm.

all these advance votes are still coming in. thats how Druh Farrell jumped in front.

and advance votes is the only thing that can take out Shandro now. he is up by 80.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by zamler

For those that voted for Notley, should she step down?

Depends on if Nenshi wants to become leader or not. I think they need to maintain the centrism and a vote of the base likely pulls the party back left as Notley as elected was much more left leaning than she is now.

It’s also a risk that you get a person from the environmental wing of the party as opposed the the labour wing of the party which would be detrimental to them as an alternative.

So unless Notley sees a more electable leader than her then I think she should stay. She out polls the party

[Ozy_Flame]

Looks like Last minute victory for the NDP in Banff Kananaskis!

Pack your #### Rosin, you're GONE!

[FireGilbert]

Wow I thought it would be close. UCP following the world wide conservative party play book of changing leaders and running a campaign on taxes and the economy paid off.

[Muta]

53% of the popular vote for NDP in the urban ridings. The UCP really, really need to figure out a strategy how to win those votes back. The cities are not Danielle fans.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Swayze11

Maybe I am too optimistic but I actually do believe MLAs and MPs do have a say and do have their voice heard.

With all due respect, you musts be pretty young. Some MLAs and MPs are good at assisting constituents deal with the government or get funding etc. But they have no say in policy.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by GGG

Depends on if Nenshi wants to become leader or not. I think they need to maintain the centrism and a vote of the base likely pulls the party back left as Notley as elected was much more left leaning than she is now.

It’s also a risk that you get a person from the environmental wing of the party as opposed the the labour wing of the party which would be detrimental to them as an alternative.

Nenshi would be better aligned for the Alberta Party imo. Maybe he could take the leadership and make it less of a clown car. It would be nice to go into an election not having to hold my nose in the booth.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by zamler

Do they? I have serious doubts I'd suggest they are not saying how they really feel.

It's a discussion forum. Unless you've met posters from here, do you really know how posters feel. Or does it really matter.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Dion

Laughed? I saw more insults. That’s a warped view you have there bud.

Go back and read it again, then, instead of just repeating that phrase like it means anything.

I, along with the majority, pointed out the thread was silly/embarrassing/absurd/etc. Your first post was even “I would be laughing too”! lol

The point is, acting like people are a monolith, or that there is some “you all” that happens to be a perfect circle of creating mean threads about the poster, insulting the poster, and asking for his opinion is also absurd.

You do a lot of finger waving at imaginary figures. Come on back to us.

[rubecube]

The people who keep saying that the NDP should cut ties with federal party really don't have a strong understanding of how the NDP's finances work, and how crippling that would be for the provincial party.

The NDP does not get a lot of money in private donations due to where they fall on the political spectrum. Most of the wealthier donors and organizations tend to be more right-wing.

I can't remember if unions are banned from donating to political parties in Alberta but, even if they aren't, unions don't have a particularly strong presence in Alberta. As such, the provincial NDP are always going to be heavily reliant on the federal party for funding.

Could they gain a percentage point or two from rebranding? Maybe, but it would come at the cost of being able to run a competitive campaign.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

There is definitely a lot of "none of the above" sentiment baked into the low turnout number but another thing that needs to looked at is why the NDP has such a loud bark but seemingly no bite. There was so much promotion leading up to election day about conservatives lending their vote and saying good things to door knockers and all the lawn signs but when the day comes it doesn't seem like the voters are showing up. At 8pm tonight there was a lot of optimism from NDP insiders but that didn't work out for them.

Maybe because the mainstream media is biased?

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Is there any reporting or sourcing on these new Trudeau policies coming down the pipe that Smith mentioned? Was only half listening and didn’t catch the actual policy points she said he was gonna implement.

The UCP deferred the rise in electricity costs last year. This means that all of our bills are about to skyrocket, but she's blaming Trudeau for it before the bill comes due. There are no new federal policies on electricity production about to be announced.

[zamler]

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