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Old 05-29-2023, 07:56 PM   #361
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Investment was already slowing and the NDP were easy to scapegoat and say its their fault we are laying people off and not investing.
NDP took power and the rest happened completely outside of their control.

What a crock of ####. I ready Notley's interview recently of her talking about Alberta energy. She said a bunch of words that meant absolutely nothing in other words she has no plan except carbon bad renewables good.

If we really are going to pay for all these wonderful social programs we should be ramping oil production to the max.
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Come on, even the most rabid NDP defenders will admit the party is not friendly to Alberta oil production.

https://boereport.com/2019/04/15/alb...under-the-ndp/
Weird the entire article ignores underlying commodity prices
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Albertan doctors average 280k a year according to a quick google search. Do people really think that allowing some privatization to relieve the backlogs is going to have all these physicians quitting their 280k jobs? Opening up semi-privatized doctors would bring people in IMO not have exisiting doctors leave is some exodus.

My main goal is to have quick healthcare for all. My concern is by pumping more money into the health care system are we sure it is going to be efficient use when there is a great deal of administrative bloat? maybe I'm naive but I can't see how creating a private sector ALONG with the current public system isn't a net benefit, People who can afford to pay will do so and take off the pressure from those who can't and need the public system.
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It pays the pockets of the rich yes. All I see is record profits against our failing healthcare and education.
I am all for Alberta diversifying but this province would die without the energy sector.

Don’t bite the hand that has fed us for so long.
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I hope once results start coming in we can focus on them and not just continuing the Alberta politics thread here.

Speaking of results, where are you watching? I tuned into CBC for a couple of minutes and it was awful. Really awkward panels. Trying CTV now.
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When can we expect to find out if Alberta is Bat ##### or Tax ##### crazy?
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I am all for Alberta diversifying but this province would die without the energy sector.

Don’t bite the hand that has fed us for so long.
Isn't this pretty much the NDP stance?
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Politics these days.

Right wing - I don’t agree but you vote is your own

Left wing - I respect your bravery for telling me your vote, but you obviously voted for anti Canadian and abhorrent reasons

Also left wing - The right has sewered political debate

(I voted Alberta Party full transparency, can’t vote Smith and won’t appease NDP fanatics)
Also right wing: lets hold a bunch of abhorrent views that have nothing to do with successfully running a jurisdiction and dog whistle them for support.

These people aren't conservatives. They're populists. I'll gladly vote for a conservative party that dismisses all this other garbage.
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I am all for Alberta diversifying but this province would die without the energy sector.

Don’t bite the hand that has fed us for so long.

IIRC the NDP’s diversification strategy last time included petrochem and hydrogen, which are decent adjacent as to O&G
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Do people really think that allowing some privatization to relieve the backlogs is going to have all these physicians quitting their 280k jobs? Opening up semi-privatized doctors would bring people in IMO not have exisiting doctors leave is some exodus.
Do you not see how the second statement you made discredits the first one?
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I hope once results start coming in we can focus on them and not just continuing the Alberta politics thread here.

Speaking of results, where are you watching? I tuned into CBC for a couple of minutes and it was awful. Really awkward panels. Trying CTV now.
Global, maybe CBC from time to time. I can't stand CTV.
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I do wish we had an actual progressive conservative party, but I wish more people realized that the andp is the closest thing we do have to that currently
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Isn't this pretty much the NDP stance?

Shhhh, I’m trying to make him come full circle.
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I hope once results start coming in we can focus on them and not just continuing the Alberta politics thread here.

Speaking of results, where are you watching? I tuned into CBC for a couple of minutes and it was awful. Really awkward panels. Trying CTV now.
The camerawork. What the.
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Isn't this pretty much the NDP stance?
They certainly didn’t show it last time they had the opportunity and $&@% all over the o and g sector.
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I did my civic duty tonight and went and voted for Kevin Van Tighem of the NDP. Was in and out of the polling station in under 5 minutes.
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They certainly didn’t show it last time they had the opportunity and $&@% all over the o and g sector.
NDP got tmx approved and bought rail car contracts when the differential blew out.
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NDP took power and the rest happened completely outside of their control.

What a crock of ####. I ready Notley's interview recently of her talking about Alberta energy. She said a bunch of words that meant absolutely nothing in other words she has no plan except carbon bad renewables good.

If we really are going to pay for all these wonderful social programs we should be ramping oil production to the max.
So you think a conservative government would have been able to sustain investments through a down trending commodity cycle. Got yah.
#### yeah, pump that oil while we can, just make sure some of it is actually redistributed to Albertans. Billions to subsidize the oil industry, that’s governments job. Subsidize education, nah that’s impossible and runs off fairy dust and only lazy people are poor lol. I think we can leave it at agree to disagree.
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The amount of oil and fellating going on in this thread is nutty and feels like a time machine to 2004. The vast majority of Albertans don't work in the sector, and continuing the resource roller coaster is only kicking the pain can down the hallway.
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Politics these days.

Right wing - I don’t agree but you vote is your own

Left wing - I respect your bravery for telling me your vote, but you obviously voted for anti Canadian and abhorrent reasons

Also left wing - The right has sewered political debate

(I voted Alberta Party full transparency, can’t vote Smith and won’t appease NDP fanatics)
Also right wing - I will get in my trunk and hunt down anyone who voted for the NDP if the party I support doesn't win.

But yes, it's totally the left who have ruined political discourse...

Spoiler!
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