Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

sure but that's just stupid. They're going to be in for 12 years of Smith

I had lunch with two ex-colleagues and they were both on the fence with that line of reasoning. Hate Smith but can't vote for NDP. Not sure my rant about Smith helped lol

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

That's stupid. Those people should vote NDP. If Smith wins, she's going to be there for 1 even 2 or 3 mandates. She's young and represents that the party is today, a truly united one. You can't vote for her and then defeat her from within. Who's the progressive conservative leader out there who could unseat her? Kenney's probably fit that bill the best.

But they can't, cause NDP = economic disaster, oil field shutdowns, quasi-support for Trudeau etc...We've all heard the reasons. Of course it's stupid and flawed thinking, but these are people who are trying to justify a bad choice, I don't expect logic.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But they can't, cause NDP = economic disaster, oil field shutdowns, quasi-support for Trudeau etc...We've all heard the reasons. Of course it's stupid and flawed thinking, but these are people who are trying to justify a bad choice, I don't expect logic.

I would think that people who believe in this would support Smith. The wackos as CP calls them.

People reasonable enough to think that Smith would be a disaster would also be the same people that are reasonable about the NDP. Oil fields will not shutdown.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I would think that people who believe in this would support Smith. The wackos as CP calls them.

People reasonable enough to think that Smith would be a disaster would also be the same people that are reasonable about the NDP. Oil fields will not shutdown.

That is not the case. They see NDP and think that they will sneakily try to switch over to Federal NDP policies and are willing to hold their nose on everything else because of economic fears or greed.

[Alpha_Q]

The only poll that mayters to me right now is the signs in and around my neighborhood. 47-40 NDP.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Alpha_Q

The only poll that mayters to me right now is the signs in and around my neighborhood. 47-40 NDP.

Ponoka is beautiful this time of year.

[Sylvanfan]

The party that wins this election likely loses the next one. There's a pending recession and Energy Downturn coming that will be pinned on them that is entirely out of their control. The fact that Alberta stayed with the same party for as long as they did was really abnormal.

Whoever wins tonight likely does with 44 to 47 seats, so that's going to be tough to impress the electorate enough to get another mandate given the slim margin.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Just because it's stupid doesn't mean it won't happen. I'm sure you know that.

Plenty of people using the myopic reasoning to vote for UCP because Bus Boobs will be turfed soon afterwards is in for as much disappointment as a Flames playoff run.

Just remember what boobs that bus is riding on.

[Ozy_Flame]

That bus probably has great traction. There's a lot of hot air in those tires.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Ponoka is beautiful this time of year.

It is and thankfully probably the only place in Alberta free of feces cookies as well

[belsarius]

Another vote for sanity complete.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

Coward.

Unpopular opinion:
People abstaining from voting doesn't bother me. It gives my vote more weight and it ensures those that can't be bothered to educate themselves on the issues don't skew the results. I'd rather someone not vote than to vote for a funny name, a colour or "because my family always votes this way".

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by kevman

Unpopular opinion:
People abstaining from voting doesn't bother me. It gives my vote more weight and it ensures those that can't be bothered to educate themselves on the issues don't skew the results. I'd rather someone not vote than to vote for a funny name, a colour or "because my family always votes this way".

Yeah, I've never really understood the problem with not voting. You have a right to vote for someone who represents you, I shouldn't HAVE to make a choice between a steamy bowl of #### or a #### sandwich.

"But you can't tell who isn't voting for apathy or laziness" is always the answer, but honestly the same can be said for spoiled ballots.

Give a voting option of "Everyone Here Sucks" and announce their vote % too.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

The only way that works is if they get rid of Notley and bring in some moderate small c Conservatives.


Like Progressive Conservatives

Bring in Mandel. It worked great for the Alberta Party.

Speaking of which, a reverse takeover of the NDP by the AP would be a genius move. Not happening in a million years of course…

[Icon]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Give a voting option of "Everyone Here Sucks" and announce their vote % too.

I actually think this would be interesting to track, and would probably have a bigger % than people think.

[Manhattanboy]

All I wanted was a dead centre candidate who was not crazy.

Too much to ask?

Agree, change their name and Notely probably wins.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Yeah, I've never really understood the problem with not voting. You have a right to vote for someone who represents you, I shouldn't HAVE to make a choice between a steamy bowl of #### or a #### sandwich.

"But you can't tell who isn't voting for apathy or laziness" is always the answer, but honestly the same can be said for spoiled ballots.

Give a voting option of "Everyone Here Sucks" and announce their vote % too.

Yeah I dunno, people getting riled up and calling me names because I said I don't really like or want to vote for either person / party is pretty indicative of why I try to stay out of politics talk in general.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Instead of "changing their name" Notley should have jumped ship and became the Alberta Party leader. Even with a name change the lineage still goes back to the NDP, Alberta Party is a fresh start.

[eddly]

I voted NDP for many reasons (voted about an hour ago). Go back a few pages to see my struggles with being undecided. Many reasons to vote NDP for the first time in my life (even though I consider myself a conservative, albeit more centrist).

Send a message to the federal conservative party that my vote is not guaranteed to go their way. If they spend too much time trying to win the far right conservative vote (please stop mentioning woke...)... they will alienate their more centrist base.

If PP continues with this woke angle that he has, he will lose the federal election. PP and the federal conservatives need a wake up call. I like the idea of giving Singh and Trudeau a false sense of security that they can win a federal election prior to 2025 as well (gaining a Liberal majority).

Fight the hate speech that UCP is promoting. Get off the fence and support NDP... this time.

[edslunch]

45-42 UCP. Two seats out of reach for the NDP, not close enough that someone leaving or getting kicked out of caucus can defeat the government. Pretty much a Flames result.