The Legendary Horn-y Matthew Tkachuk

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

It's neither. It's using a small sample size to reframe the issue to fit the narrative. You have to ignore the larger data set to accept the narrative being spun. What we're seeing here is lightning being captured in a bottle, not an accurate representation of the overall performance.

I'm pretty sure that MT won't have to give back an SC ring based on it being a small sample size.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I'm pretty sure that MT won't have to give back an SC ring based on it being a small sample size.

That wasn't the point hulderfolk. The developing narrative is the Flames gave Florida the championship core of their team and would have been better off keeping the players themselves, which is a bunch of navel gazing garbage. The success is based off a very small window riding a very hot goaltender and a single player on a mission. No one will take their ring away from them (if they win it) but no one is going to suggest this team is going to repeat this success.
The 2023 Panthers are exactly like the 2004 Flames, and that team also had a pretty mediocre track record before the Cinderella run.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

That wasn't the point hulderfolk. The developing narrative is the Flames gave Florida the championship core of their team and would have been better off keeping the players themselves, which is a bunch of navel gazing garbage. The success is based off a very small window riding a very hot goaltender and a single player on a mission. No one will take their ring away from them (if they win it) but no one is going to suggest this team is going to repeat this success.
The 2023 Panthers are exactly like the 2004 Flames, and that team also had a pretty mediocre track record before the Cinderella run.

So what you saying is if the flames traded Iginla and Kipper to a team that contended they would be a "navel gazing garbage" team fluke?

Newsflash, the league has history of players on missions and hot goalies who won cups. sometimes it doesn't take much to make a champion.

[Cycling76er]

I've missed a few days here. Can someone fill me in as to why the thread title is now horny Matthew Tkachuk?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

That wasn't the point hulderfolk. The developing narrative is the Flames gave Florida the championship core of their team and would have been better off keeping the players themselves, which is a bunch of navel gazing garbage. The success is based off a very small window riding a very hot goaltender and a single player on a mission. No one will take their ring away from them (if they win it) but no one is going to suggest this team is going to repeat this success.
The 2023 Panthers are exactly like the 2004 Flames, and that team also had a pretty mediocre track record before the Cinderella run.

Not really , the 2021 Panthers finished 4th overall, the 2022 Panthers won the President trophy, they upgraded Tkachuk for Huberdeau.
The 2004 Flames were no where as dominant

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

So what you saying is if the flames traded Iginla and Kipper to a team that contended they would be a "navel gazing garbage" team fluke?

Nope, not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is there is a high degree of navel gazing going on suggesting that the Flames would be in a similar position to the Panthers had they held onto Tkachuk and Bennett, which is ridiculous. Tkachuk and Bobrovsky are driving this Cinderella run, so to suggest that the Flames made a massive mistake and traded away the core of a championship team to Florida is disingenuous. The most important player (Bob) was already there and Tkachuk forced his way out and to Florida. That dynamic likely never would have been recreated here. Suggesting as such is certainty is navel gazing.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Not really , the 2021 Panthers finished 4th overall, the 2022 Panthers won the President trophy, they upgraded Tkachuk for Huberdeau.
The 2004 Flames were no where as dominant

Yet this past year's Panthers barely scraped into the playoffs in the East and would not have made it if they were in the West. Not as impressive a team as you're trying to make people believe. But carry on gaslighting anyone dumb enough to listen.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Cycling76er

I've missed a few days here. Can someone fill me in as to why the thread title is now horny Matthew Tkachuk?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yet this past year's Panthers barely scraped into the playoffs in the East and would not have made it if they were in the West. Not as impressive a team as you're trying to make people believe. But carry on gaslighting anyone dumb enough to listen.

Can you try to argue with someone without being so confrontational? I think you're intelligent but your style of discourse is really abrasive.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yet this past year's Panthers barely scraped into the playoffs in the East and would not have made it if they were in the West. Not as impressive a team as you're trying to make people believe. But carry on gaslighting anyone dumb enough to listen.

Lol they had a bad year but they do have a good core of players

It’s obvious now.

I am just posting my random opinions, I actually don’t care what people believe

[Soliak]

Watching Tkachuk perform in these big games sure is painful. He has been my favourite player since Iginla. In 2020 I bought a new house and purchased a game worn signed jersey then got it framed to be the feature of my bar area. Every time I look at it I remember we let him go when we had a chance to sign him up. Just horrendous. He made hockey fun to watch, even more than Johnny, now we are in re-build mode with all these horrible contracts. Doesn't get much worse than this.

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Soliak

Watching Tkachuk perform in these big games sure is painful. He has been my favourite player since Iginla. In 2020 I bought a new house and purchased a game worn signed jersey then got it framed to be the feature of my bar area. Every time I look at it I remember we let him go when we had a chance to sign him up. Just horrendous. He made hockey fun to watch, even more than Johnny, now we are in re-build mode with all these horrible contracts. Doesn't get much worse than this.

any player that Oiler fans hate that much should have been a life time Flame, watching him own caveman Kassian was a beautiful thing

[chummer]

nm

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Cycling76er

I've missed a few days here. Can someone fill me in as to why the thread title is now horny Matthew Tkachuk?

They changed it because...

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...ple-leafs.html

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Cycling76er

I've missed a few days here. Can someone fill me in as to why the thread title is now horny Matthew Tkachuk?

Turns out he's a lesser demon. Also explains his skating style.

[jayswin]

nm

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Soliak

Watching Tkachuk perform in these big games sure is painful. He has been my favourite player since Iginla. In 2020 I bought a new house and purchased a game worn signed jersey then got it framed to be the feature of my bar area. Every time I look at it I remember we let him go when we had a chance to sign him up. Just horrendous. He made hockey fun to watch, even more than Johnny, now we are in re-build mode with all these horrible contracts. Doesn't get much worse than this.

I have bad news for you, it does get worse.....we're not in rebuild mode. We're gonna ruuuuun it back!!

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Soliak

Watching Tkachuk perform in these big games sure is painful. He has been my favourite player since Iginla. In 2020 I bought a new house and purchased a game worn signed jersey then got it framed to be the feature of my bar area. Every time I look at it I remember we let him go when we had a chance to sign him up. Just horrendous. He made hockey fun to watch, even more than Johnny, now we are in re-build mode with all these horrible contracts. Doesn't get much worse than this.

The positive is we no longer have Treliving around to #### the core players so he can pick up overpaid garbage

Hopefully Conroy is doing a better job at understanding hockey

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Nope, not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is there is a high degree of navel gazing going on suggesting that the Flames would be in a similar position to the Panthers had they held onto Tkachuk and Bennett, which is ridiculous. Tkachuk and Bobrovsky are driving this Cinderella run, so to suggest that the Flames made a massive mistake and traded away the core of a championship team to Florida is disingenuous. The most important player (Bob) was already there and Tkachuk forced his way out and to Florida. That dynamic likely never would have been recreated here. Suggesting as such is certainty is navel gazing.

When more than one ex Flames are making the difference, creating the greatest impact to the extent that the TNT commentator is shouting, “are you watching this Calgary?”, you’ve probably ####ed up pretty badly.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

When more than one ex Flames are making the difference, creating the greatest impact to the extent that the TNT commentator is shouting, “are you watching this Calgary?”, you’ve probably ####ed up pretty badly.

A few Ifs:

If Markstrom can have a playoff like Bob
If the Flames were able to keep Tkachuk and Bennett
In Monahan didn’t get hurt continuously
If Hanifin doesn’t soil his pants when he sees McDrai
If Treliving could fill out the roster with cheaper and effective bottom line players

Lots of Ifs