[ECF] Carolina Hurricanes [MET1] vs Florida Panthers [WC2] Panthers win 4-0

[Kipper_3434]

Ya'll wanna quit arguing semantics? Bob has been the top player in the 2023 playoffs. Both of you agree. So why argue to what degree he's helped the panthers win? It was a mildly interesting convo, til the imaginary "what-ifs".

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

It really does feel now like when Tkachuk said they were going to win a cup after getting traded (and many scoffed at it) that he was manifesting that ####.

There are rare times when you get that team of destiny vibe from a group and the '04 Flames were one of them, but it seems like belief more than reason is what is fueling that group to go all the way and even a superior opponent by all metrics won't stand in the way.

Love a good lightning in a bottle story, just wish it didn't involve a key player that just recently spurned the Flames for "winning" reasons.

[JohnnyB]

Bob in the playoffs is 2.15 and .935.
Andersen in the playoffs is 1.58 and .937.

Might just be the difference between which of these two is up for Conn Smythe consideration is who plays for a team with a game-breaking forward that can score in OT and set up game winners....

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bob in the playoffs is 2.15 and .935.
Andersen in the playoffs is 1.58 and .937.

Might just be the difference between which of these two is up for Conn Smythe consideration is who plays for a team with a game-breaking forward that can score in OT and set up game winners....

Islanders vs. 3 elimination games vs. the Bruins...one that was absolutely stolen

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bob in the playoffs is 2.15 and .935.
Andersen in the playoffs is 1.58 and .937.

Might just be the difference between which of these two is up for Conn Smythe consideration is who plays for a team with a game-breaking forward that can score in OT and set up game winners....

No, it’s only unexpected and historic goaltending. That’s it. You have to let dino have this because just saying “yeah I was completely wrong about the Panthers every step of the way” is just not at an option for him and he will not stop making sure everyone knows he would have been right if it wasn’t for that darn Bobrovsky lol.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

No, it’s only unexpected and historic goaltending. That’s it. You have to let dino have this because just saying “yeah I was completely wrong about the Panthers every step of the way” is just not at an option for him and he will not stop making sure everyone knows he would have been right if it wasn’t for that darn Bobrovsky lol.

NHL analysts are calling it historic...his last 8 games and the current series are record setting. All time, ask noodles, he just said on TSN that it is the best 8 game goaltending performance in league history...you think I paid him off?

They had 92 points I won $100 because they finished behind the Flames...was right about that

"Boston in 2" guy saying I told you so is rich though

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by dino7c

NHL analysts are calling it historic...his last 8 games and the current series are record setting. All time, ask noodles, he just said on TSN that it is the best 8 game goaltending performance in league history...you think I paid him off?

They had 92 points I won $100 because they finished behind the Flames...was right about that

"Boston in 2" guy saying I told you so is rich though

I can't help but laugh when you bring this up. I mean, congrats, it's great that you won $100 by guessing right on something that was a 50-50 outcome I guess. It's just weird that you have repeatedly referred to winning it. It's so, so strange.

[memphusk]

Yeah it is strange.

[dino7c]

people keep saying I was so wrong about the Panthers...just pointing out I was right about them not having a great regular season

I can't help but laugh at the Panthers bandwagon jumpers, they knew all along...just don't check the first few pages of the Boston series thread!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by dino7c

"Boston in 2" guy saying I told you so is rich though

“Boston in 2” guy actually watched that series and wasn’t too proud to admit how stupid that was in retrospect and judge the team on how they have played since the start of the playoffs.

Sure looks a lot smarter than “Leafs in 6” and “Carolina in 5” guy.

“If it wasn’t for Bobrovsky in that one game, Florida wouldn’t have won four games!”

Desperate stuff haha.

And just so you understand, this isn’t about “I told you so.” This is about how funny it is watching someone who has been wrong every step of the way… for months, refuse to admit they looked stupid and just keep discrediting the team that has made them look stupid instead of just doing what a normal person does and re-evaluating along the way. You know, kind of like going from “Boston in 2” guy to a believer. It’s a wonder what new information does to an opinion when you don’t care about being right. Maybe care less and enjoy the hockey.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

“Boston in 2” guy actually watched that series and wasn’t too proud to admit how stupid that was in retrospect and judge the team on how they have played since the start of the playoffs.

Sure looks a lot smarter than “Leafs in 6” and “Carolina in 5” guy.

“If it wasn’t for Bobrovsky in that one game, Florida wouldn’t have won four games!”

Desperate stuff haha.

And just so you understand, this isn’t about “I told you so.” This is about how funny it is watching someone who has been wrong every step of the way… for months, refuse to admit they looked stupid and just keep discrediting the team that has made them look stupid instead of just doing what a normal person does and re-evaluating along the way. You know, kind of like going from “Boston in 2” guy to a believer. It’s a wonder what new information does to an opinion when you don’t care about being right. Maybe care less and enjoy the hockey.

Ahem...

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Everyone picking Carolina, just like everyone picked Toronto, just like everyone picked Boston.

You'd think ya'll would have learned by now.

[kipperiggy]

Makes sense that Bob is playing lights out if he wasn’t overplayed during the regular season.

[FlamesAddiction]

Between the All-Star break and the end of the season, the Panthers were 5th in the east for winning percentage. Not a top team, but not on a wild card pace either. Keep in mind, that was with either 3rd/4th string goalie Alex Lyon in net, or Bobrovsky who had a 0.900 SA%. Lyon wasn't much better to be honest. They just gave up a lot of ground in the first half, but they went into the playoffs a lot stronger than the final standings would indicate.

It's true that the sudden emergence of Vezina caliber goaltending has made a huge difference in the playoffs, but they were getting decent results down the stretch with sub-par goaltending, which would indicate that they have a pretty good team in front of the goalies as well.

And sure, there are occasional examples of "make it in and anything can happen", but there are way more examples of teams just making it in and being out in 2 weeks. It's not a strategy to win a championship.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

“Boston in 2” guy actually watched that series and wasn’t too proud to admit how stupid that was in retrospect and judge the team on how they have played since the start of the playoffs.

Sure looks a lot smarter than “Leafs in 6” and “Carolina in 5” guy.

“If it wasn’t for Bobrovsky in that one game, Florida wouldn’t have won four games!”

Desperate stuff haha.

And just so you understand, this isn’t about “I told you so.” This is about how funny it is watching someone who has been wrong every step of the way… for months, refuse to admit they looked stupid and just keep discrediting the team that has made them look stupid instead of just doing what a normal person does and re-evaluating along the way. You know, kind of like going from “Boston in 2” guy to a believer. It’s a wonder what new information does to an opinion when you don’t care about being right. Maybe care less and enjoy the hockey.

I'm literally saying Bob is the #1 Conn Smythe candidate and have bet money on both him and Eichel

Their goalie has stolen multiple games, especially vs. Boston and especially game 5.

guess what I am picking Vegas too.

[FanIn80]

In addition to FlamesAddiction's post... between the first game after the all-star break and the end of the regular season, Florida finished with the 6th most 5v5 goals scored and the 4th least 5v5 goals alowed in the entire league.

During that time, their .633 points percentage was good enough for 11th in the entire NHL, higher than 5 other playoff teams (Carolina, Tampa, NYI, Seattle and Winnipeg). Calgary's points percentage (we finished 1 point higher than them, don't forget) during that same time was only .563.

They were 3rd overall in GF/GP (all situations), behind only Edmonton and Colorado. Their GA/GP (all situations) however was 15th overall, indicating they were among the best in the NHL offensively while average on the defensive/goaltending side (I don't know what their team SV% was during that timeframe, nor any of the adv stats, as I'm just looking at surface stuff right now).

Why did they only make the playoffs by one point when they were clearly in the top third of teams in the NHL post all-star break? I'm glad you didn't ask! It's because they got hit with injuries in November and December when they posted only a .464 and a .429 points percentage, respectively. (They put up .611 in October and .600 in January, if anyone's interested in the other months.)

Needless to say, this whole "they're a bad team who only got 92 points" narrative is nothing but horsepoop. It doesn't take a lot of effort to look beyond just sorting the points column at the end of the season... if you actually want to know what you're talking about, that is.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bob in the playoffs is 2.15 and .935.
Andersen in the playoffs is 1.58 and .937.

Might just be the difference between which of these two is up for Conn Smythe consideration is who plays for a team with a game-breaking forward that can score in OT and set up game winners....

Jack Campbell is at 1.02 and .961

Stats are pretty useless without context.

[transplant99]

Im curious to see if the league gives Benn any further discipline. It will be an in-person hearing.

Most suspensions in the playoffs are 1 game. He essentially served that last night being that his infraction happened 2 minutes into the game.

Normally (reg.season) that is 3-5 games. Intentional and vicious, and could have been a really bad outcome for Stone.

With Dallas on the brink, the league may want to see them be competitive and win 1 or 2 to get that gate revenue. Parros was at the game, so he saw it all unfold live.

I think they have to give him one more, but this is the wheel of justice after all.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Jack Campbell is at 1.02 and .961

Stats are pretty useless without context.

What’s the context you think is missing?

[Toonage]

If (when) Florida wins tonight, I want Tkachuk to grab the Price of Wales Trophy, point at the gate and just haul ass off the ice with it.

[CroFlames]

Crazy that both conference finals are at 3-0.