Noodles just said on TSN that according to the numbers, that the last 8 games by Bobrovsky are the greatest 8 game stretch in the history of the NHL....regular season or playoff. Not sure what the quantifiers are but i suspect its GAA and goals against below expected or whatever that is.
If so, that is bananas. Also why they gave him 10M per.
This is kinda my point...they are barely winning games with the greatest goaltending ever. Not some super team
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He is .977 in the East Final and has set the all time record for saves after 3 games
Panthers locking it down and strong defensively lol (not sure if you said that, somebody did)
They havent locked it down per se, but they arent getting killed either.
I mean 32 shots against last night is not some outrageous amount. And there were a few 10 bellers last night, but it wasnt a crazy amount. Most were pretty pedestrian.
65 shots against in 7 periods previous game equates to 27 over a normal game.
Game 2 was stellar though. 38 shots against stopping 37...many difficult.
But truthfully the Panthers havent been poor defensively overall....but when they are Bobs is there to slam the door.
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This isn't Florida re emerging as a team of destiny after one bad year. This is a goaltender dragging his team to the finals with , literally , unprecedented numbers
Yup.
Goaltending can trump everything else when it's above a certain level.
If Bob was average through these playoffs, we're probably not watching the Panthers playing right now. They aren't Vegas.
Feels like Maurice is just along for this ride behind Bob too. This isn't a result of genius coaching either, although he's probably preaching the right things.
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This just isn't right. Oddsmakers always set and adjust the line. This is not like the S&P500 or some index like that.
Of course in adjusting the line they are influenced by what bettors are actually doing but that is only historical info. They are trying to anticipate future action by setting and adjusting the lines.
For example, a major new piece of information will influence the betting line. Oddsmakers won't wait for bettors to place large bets after this new info is out before they change the betting line.
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They havent locked it down per se, but they arent getting killed either.
I mean 32 shots against last night is not some outrageous amount. And there were a few 10 bellers last night, but it wasnt a crazy amount. Most were pretty pedestrian.
65 shots against in 7 periods previous game equates to 27 over a normal game.
Game 2 was stellar though. 38 shots against stopping 37...many difficult.
But truthfully the Panthers havent been poor defensively overall....but when they are Bobs is there to slam the door.
They have probably had 2 or 3 games this postseason where you can honestly say they carried the play. It doesn't matter in the end but it is what is happening, historic goaltending and close wins. It is what it is.
Goaltending can trump everything else when it's above a certain level.
If Bob was average through these playoffs, we're probably not watching the Panthers playing right now. They aren't Vegas.
Feels like Maurice is just along for this ride behind Bob too. This isn't a result of genius coaching either, although he's probably preaching the right things.
They probably shouldn't have made it past game 5 to be honest...it was a 3-1 series and in that game they were dominated
Outshot: 47-25
Outchanced: 18-7
xGF: 4.32 - 2.07
But won 4-3.
Honestly that game goes the way you'd have expected it to go 99% of the time and they lose in 5 and all this talk about Tkachuk and Bobrovsky being the heroes is a moot point.
It really goes to show how fine of a line there is between success and failure in the playoffs...and how much teams can overreact to what is sometimes just good or bad luck in small samples sizes come playoff time.
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Goaltending and overall team play is a two-way street. Bobrovsky is playing out of his mind but there's a lot of good things happening on that team allowing him to play well.
Anyways, Pasco Valana is a goaltending coach/consultant for Hockey Canada. He recently broke down Bobrovsky's tendencies (not simply weaknesses/strengths) for those interested in learning more about goaltending:
So a goaltender can't make the team a "super team"? Hard to follow your logic here.
Its pretty easy to follow...a goalie that was bad all year is on a lightning in a bottle type run. Its totally unsustainable, it may last long enough to get them a cup, it may not.
If he plays even average they likely don't win it
I can quote you loling at him being a 10M backup a month ago, now so defensive
all this cap allocation nonsense...they sat him on the bench a few weeks ago for an AHLer because he was playing so terrible, lets not pretend this was the shrewd plan all along. They would have paid to get rid of him all season but no takers. Most lists had it as the worst contract in the entire league.
The Panthers are team of average skaters overall with a goalie on a historic heater. Take the Flames out of it...any playoff team getting this goaltending would be a contender. Statistically the best 8 games in NHL history, that is a TSN article not me saying it.
Its pretty easy to follow...a goalie that was bad all year is on a lightning in a bottle type run. Its totally unsustainable, it may last long enough to get them a cup, it may not.
If he plays even average they likely don't win it
I can quote you loling at him being a 10M backup a month ago, now so defensive
So he found his game? Who cares what he did before, I certainly don't. I know how he played the previous years. But that wasn't even your argument, you simply said that the Panthers aren't a super team and are only winning because of goaltending which means you don't considering goaltending part of the team, which doesn't make any sense.
So he found his game? Who cares what he did before, I certainly don't. I know how he played the previous years. But that wasn't even your argument, you simply said that the Panthers aren't a super team and are only winning because of goaltending which means you don't considering goaltending part of the team, which doesn't make any sense.
outside of their current goaltending they are very average, like 17th overall mushy middle
that better?
It makes a lot of sense when the original debate was about the Conn Smythe but who needs context when we are talking about our favorite team for the last 3 weeks
If they win the cup Bob is 100% winning it because he is the BIGGEST reason they are still playing and didn't lose in 5 to Boston, stats are stats.
If he doesn't carry them they won't win...like when the other guy was playing okay and they were down 3-1
outside of their current goaltending they are very average, like 17th overall mushy middle
that better?
It makes a lot of sense when the original debate was about the Conn Smythe but who needs context when we are talking about our favorite team for the last 3 weeks
If they win the cup Bob is 100% winning it because he is the BIGGEST reason they are still playing and didn't lose in 5 to Boston, stats are stats.
If he doesn't carry them they won't win...like when the other guy was playing okay and they were down 3-1
Well there are other things also but if it makes you feel better that Bob is the reason why the Panthers win the cup then so be it! lol
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I said BIGGEST and put it in caps but you still didn't see it so I guess you weren't looking
like I said they were down 3-1 with the other guy and then Bob stole a game...go look at the numbers.
Oh ok, I see what you want to hear. That the Panthers are just lucking into a cup. Fine, I could not care less if that's the case and I'm sure the players won't care either lol.
Oh ok, I see what you want to hear. That the Panthers are just lucking into a cup. Fine, I could not care less if that's the case and I'm sure the players won't care either lol.
I never mentioned luck one time...just discussing what is actually happening out there. Most people around the hockey world agree.
Historic goaltending, one goal wins...you figure it out
You could not care less but you are on here defending their honor for some reason, okay guy...I know you have been a die hard fan for 3 weeks. Especially of the 10M backup you were making fun of in the Boston series.
