[Rumour] Flames to name Conroy GM. Nonis in an executive role; Iginla advisor

[dustygoon]

They won't say outright, but i'm keen to hear any info about how much autonomy Conroy actually has or at least a little about decision making.

We know Murray obviously has a say.

Is Nonis a babysitter and owner hire or did Connie genuinely want him and had choice to hire him? What's Nonis' role?

Analytics....can Connie keep and add to the analytics group? Where does Chris Snow end up?

Is Maloney going to live in Arizona to work on that tan and bleached hair?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I wonder if Conroy will continue to trade 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks for plugs at every deadline when there are young players that are pushing for spots.

That's one of the things that bothered me with Treliving is the amount of draft capital wasted on depth players. It seems like cap space and draft picks were two things that burned holes in his pockets. I really hope Conroy does a better job at managing assets and the salary cap.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well the good news is being capped out we probably won't have the space to make dumb trades.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's one of the things that bothered me with Treliving is the amount of draft capital wasted on depth players. It seems like cap space and draft picks were two things that burned holes in his pockets. I really hope Conroy does a better job at managing assets and the salary cap.

Teams that expect to win add depth pieces.

I think the issue was thinking he had a core in place to win, which was never the case.

.....

With Edwards and decision making ... I guess my hope is the Sutter extension, Treliving exodus and Sutter termination shed some light on what over stepping can create and he learns to have input but less overall control.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

They shouldn’t. You should always draft best player available. Things will always happen, but you always extract value from going the best player available route. If you prioritize anything else, you lessen the value of the pick

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

I think there is a good argument that most teams shouldn't draft players from the NCAA with how stupid the rules are on signing them.

I am not sure about not signing American players full stop. Tkachuk easily could have been signed to a long term deal here and been a core piece for 10-15 years, we just handled that badly. Even if he didn't want to stay he could have easily been dealt for quality pieces to help kickstart a rebuild and set up the team for the next 5-10 years, but again we handled that badly.

Even Gaudreau seemed willing to sign here long term according to reports, so if you thought that was a good idea could have signed him or dealt him for pieces to help with the rebuild and set our team up for the next 5-10 years.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

New GM is American...hopefully he takes BPA regardless of birth certificates (Russians aside for obvious reasons).

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

Yeah & that argument is made by people who empirically lose debates and get fired from almost any paid position in the industry.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

I suppose that's debatable. We got 9 years out of Johnny, 6 out of Chucky, 0 from fox, Hanifin seems really happy to stay if they want him to.

In hindsight, the issue with these American players is more on the organization for not seeing the writing on the wall and letting Johnny go for nothing. Or choosing another path for contract negotiations.

[getbak]

About 30% of all the players in the NHL are American. It would be insane to say you'll never draft an American because you had a couple bad experiences.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

Yeah, from xenophobic people. Not every American player is Tkachuk, Johnny or Fox. Especially considering the next GM is a former, beloved Flames player from the US

[bax]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

There really isn’t.

Conroy is American and has been in Calgary for how long?

Gaudreau gave us a decade when he could have gone back to school for 1 season and gone anywhere he wanted.

Tkachuk gave us 6 years and apparently wanted a longer deal when he signed his 3 year.

Hanifin is still here.

Fox wasn’t a Canada vs US thing. He also spurred Carolina. It was NYC or bust.

Coronato signed, Dustin Wolf is here. Always draft BPA.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661017331156541440

[Reign of Fire]

Any details released on the press conference?


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[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Any details released on the press conference?


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Not yet.

[Muta]

Our new GM is American and decided to make Calgary his home. It's not like every single American is out to plot against being here lol. And, avoiding drafting Americans is one of the stupidest ideas ever; just draft the best person available - that value will come around in some way, shape or form.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Spurs

I think there is a good argument that most teams shouldn't draft players from the NCAA with how stupid the rules are on signing them.

I am not sure about not signing American players full stop. Tkachuk easily could have been signed to a long term deal here and been a core piece for 10-15 years, we just handled that badly. Even if he didn't want to stay he could have easily been dealt for quality pieces to help kickstart a rebuild and set up the team for the next 5-10 years, but again we handled that badly.

Even Gaudreau seemed willing to sign here long term according to reports, so if you thought that was a good idea could have signed him or dealt him for pieces to help with the rebuild and set our team up for the next 5-10 years.

JG is probably a good example of the point. Probably wanted to sign here. Probably should have signed here. But went to ...Columbus?

We'll see how Austin Matthews plays out as well. You think he would rather be in Toronto than California, or Arizona, or Florida, etc?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

There is a good argument to be made that the Flames should not draft American players

No there isn't.

Tkachuk for 6 years plus his trade return is still better than taking Alex Nylander, Mikhail Sergachev, or Tyson Yost (Keller was also American).

Fox was better than pretty much any player taken after him, and if he's worth the equivalent of 2 2nd round picks that is still good return on a 3rd rounder. Cliff Pu was the next Canadian taken in that draft.

You always take the best player available and would be stupid to do otherwise.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by getbak

About 30% of all the players in the NHL are American. It would be insane to say you'll never draft an American because you had a couple bad experiences.

Yeah imagine taking out 1/3 of the pool and drafting inferior players?

You're better off drafting an American who has said he won't play in Canada if he's better than the next choice. Better to have the asset and move it then consistently drafting lesser players and having less asset value.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Muta

Our new GM is American and decided to make Calgary his home. It's not like every single American is out to plot against being here lol. And, avoiding drafting Americans is one of the stupidest ideas ever; just draft the best person available - that value will come around in some way, shape or form.

You can't ignore the facts - players want to play in the US more than they do in Canada. Better weather, more anonymity, better tax rates, larger markets, etc etc. The draw to these benefits would be higher for an American player with American citizenship.

If you draft an American, the probability of you ending up in a MT situation after a few short years is higher.