05-20-2023, 09:17 PM
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#661
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
It’s fair.
Treliving hired the coaches that screwed Bennett over here.
Treliving signed the bridge contract that walked Chucky out the door.
It just is what it is.
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considering that former young core (Gaudreau, Bennett, Tkachuk, Monahan) were all apparently close friends, I'm not sure ever event was independent either. A lot of dominos fell just wrong for things to turn out the way they have. It all goes back to the 2016 offseason, whether it was lowball with Gaudreau, trading a 2nd for Elliott, signing Troy Brouwer, or hiring Glen Gulutzan.
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05-20-2023, 09:18 PM
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#662
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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i'm ####ing pissed at tre. #### him. Wizard my ass, he was fleeced. I hope this lights a fire under Hubys ass and he shows us why he's worth the big bucks
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05-20-2023, 09:18 PM
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#663
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Franchise Player
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Florida now 6-0 in OT. Eighth straight win on the road. Just ridiculous.
I’m surprised Chucky didn’t score it off his backside, the hockey gods are clearly doing whatever they want right now…
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05-20-2023, 09:19 PM
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#664
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
considering that former young core (Gaudreau, Bennett, Tkachuk, Monahan) were all apparently close friends, I'm not sure ever event was independent either. A lot of dominos fell just wrong for things to turn out the way they have. It all goes back to the 2016 offseason, whether it was lowball with Gaudreau, trading a 2nd for Elliott, signing Troy Brouwer, or hiring Glen Gulutzan.
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We gave up on that core too easily i wish we somehow kept them.
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05-20-2023, 09:19 PM
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#665
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Scoring Winger
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Lot of revisionist history on the bridge deal.
People forgetting that we didn’t have the cap space to sign him to more?
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05-20-2023, 09:20 PM
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#666
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GOAT!
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Man, what a redemption arch for Bobrovsky though.
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05-20-2023, 09:21 PM
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#667
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvp2003
Florida now 6-0 in OT. Eighth straight win on the road. Just ridiculous.
I’m surprised Chucky didn’t score it off his backside, the hockey gods are clearly doing whatever they want right now…
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Reminds me of the Habs in 93
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05-20-2023, 09:21 PM
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#668
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Burnaby
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Originally Posted by The Fisher Account
Lot of revisionist history on the bridge deal.
People forgetting that we didn’t have the cap space to sign him to more?
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Yeah extending Frolik was that important.
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05-20-2023, 09:22 PM
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#669
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
considering that former young core (Gaudreau, Bennett, Tkachuk, Monahan) were all apparently close friends, I'm not sure ever event was independent either. A lot of dominos fell just wrong for things to turn out the way they have. It all goes back to the 2016 offseason, whether it was lowball with Gaudreau, trading a 2nd for Elliott, signing Troy Brouwer, or hiring Glen Gulutzan.
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Were they all close friends?
I was always under the impression it was more Monahan/Gaudreau vs Tkachuk/Bennett.
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05-20-2023, 09:22 PM
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#670
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Franchise Player
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How about that ballsy pass by Reinhart. Overtime of a playoff game and he’s got a point blank chance and he has the composure to make one more pass.
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05-20-2023, 09:23 PM
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#671
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by AC
I feel like chances are had Tkachuk signed long-term he would have still demanded a trade out. Would anything have changed?
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Yeah, I'm still of the opinion any post contract talk of max terms were just backfilling. But even if Treliving had made the moves to do a long term deal (at money Tkachuk would have been demanding - starting with a 9 - I'm betting he might have pulled a trade demand after some of the less successful years - maybe after the bubble.
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05-20-2023, 09:23 PM
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#672
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Originally Posted by The Fisher Account
Lot of revisionist history on the bridge deal.
People forgetting that we didn’t have the cap space to sign him to more?
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because other less valued players were priority of tre, that is probably when chuck started thinking he isn't appreciated here. Sutter not giving him the ice time he deserved and not giving the C sealed the deal imo.
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05-20-2023, 09:23 PM
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#673
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
lets pump the brakes a little. this panthers team is water skiing behind bob big time. hes a part of the team, yes, but, whens the last time an 8 seed won the stanley cup behind goaltending alone? besides 04 when they missed the goal in game 6 that is.
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Panthers aren't a normal 8 seed. Not only are they largely the same roster that had 120pts a year ago (sans Marchment/Weegar/Huberdeau, plus Tkachuk), but they were a top five-ish team in most fancy stats this year too. Goaltending was probably the reason they didn't cruise to the playoffs, but now that they have it, they don't have many holes, outside of maybe the Staal brothers not quite being what they once were.
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05-20-2023, 09:23 PM
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#674
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
What evidence do we have that MT would have ever signed an 8 year deal at that time?
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The only evidence is out of Chuckys mouth himself, in more than one podcast interview he said that was what he was initially looking for.
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05-20-2023, 09:25 PM
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#675
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fisher Account
Lot of revisionist history on the bridge deal.
People forgetting that we didn’t have the cap space to sign him to more?
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That's literally the point. Tree bridged him to keep the roster together instead of making enough room to lock him up. You bridge a Mangiapane or a Dube, but you always lock up a Tkachuk.
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05-20-2023, 09:25 PM
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#676
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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it's just hard to put this in the past because we are currently watching an amazing thing happen, after playoffs it will be easier to heal and move on
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05-20-2023, 09:25 PM
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#677
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Please remember the Oil Vegas game just a week ago, keep your spirits up. Tkachuk wouldn't have won here anyways. Glad it's them not dry#######
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05-20-2023, 09:25 PM
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#678
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Man, what a redemption arch for Bobrovsky though.
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This is the most overlooked story of these playoffs. That guy had lost his job to Spencer Knight and then again to Alex Lyon. He has been magnificent
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05-20-2023, 09:26 PM
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#679
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Canes fans in shambles
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It's so demoralizing playing your soul out and having some dude with a mouth guard in incorrectly dump on your team twice in OT and then leaving like he's checking out of the dentist.
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05-20-2023, 09:26 PM
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#680
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
The only evidence is out of Chuckys mouth himself, in more than one podcast interview he said that was what he was initially looking for.
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Way after the fact, and it would have been a tough number even without the contact everyone blames (Frolik).
And what was he going to say - "no I want to get to free agency and leave asap"? Tkachuk is nothing if not media savvy.
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