[News] Tempe voters reject the Coyotes Arena and Entertainment District

[Reggie Dunlop]

Houston. Keep the Coyotes name, ditch the Kachina unis and go back to the brick red/howling coyote logo of a few years ago. Easy peasy.

Houston can pay a premium on the relocation fee to make it work for the other NHL owners.

[getbak]

The Moda Center in Portland is nearing 30 years old. It was previously the part time home of the Winter Hawks and has an impressive capacity of 18,280 for hockey.



For many years, Portland was often mentioned as a destination for the Flames if they ever left Calgary. Former Trailblazers owner, Paul Allen was rumoured to not be a hockey fan and had no interest in putting a team into his arena. Since his death, Allen's sister Jody now runs his organization.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

I don't know how this organization can stay in Arizona, even with Bettman's insistence they do...

I expect Bettman to do a complete 180 here. Mainly because the Coyotes aren't a viable franchise without an arena. Secondly he can use this to his advantage on future negotiations. Without a new arena the team can't stay will not be an empty threat.

[Manhattanboy]

These kinds of plebiscite are destined to fail.

Watch Notely put our arena deal to a referendum like she did for the Olympics. It would be rejected by a wide margin.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Houston. Keep the Coyotes name, ditch the Kachina unis and go back to the brick red/howling coyote logo of a few years ago. Easy peasy.

Houston can pay a premium on the relocation fee to make it work for the other NHL owners.

What? The return to their Kachina jerseys is like the only good thing they've done in the last decade.

[Scornfire]

Maybe the could move them to Oakland for a couple years and then once the fanbase there actually becomes attached to the team, move them elsewhere ��

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

These kinds of plebiscite are destined to fail.

Watch Notely put our arena deal to a referendum like she did for the Olympics. It would be rejected by a wide margin.

Don't count out Smith doing that as well, she's not exactly made of trust.

[devo22]

moving the team to Houston seems like such a no-brainer to me. Big market (their AHL team had good attendance IIRC) and you don't even have to change the division alignment.

[Buzzard]

Move somewhere more easterly please. I already watch too much hockey way past my bedtime.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I think Austin would be smart for similar reasons the way Vegas was.

Austin 3:16!

[Senator Clay Davis]

In the end, even more than a good arena, the Coyotes have never actually had good ownership. So even if they got the arena they wanted, would it matter? As though losing millions in a shiny new barn would somehow be better than losing millions in the current situation? I have no doubt Arizona will get another crack at this down the line, when they can get some competent ownership. The fact they've already floated Atlanta again tells you this. But the other successful southern markets all have good to elite ownership, which is what you need in markets where hockey might fall behind cornhole league in public interest.

And while I would bet the odds of Quebec City are close to 0, money always talks, so if a perspective QC owner wants to pay a record relocation fee, by a lot, then it will be in play.

[Finger Cookin]

Too bad Chase Center in San Francisco isn't designed to host NHL games, it would be an attractive destination.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by driveway

Most populated Cities west of the Mississippi without hockey teams:



Houston, San Antonio, San Diego, Austin, San Francisco, Oklahoma City, El Paso, Portland, Albequerque, Tuscon, Fresno, Sacramento.



Metro Areas:



Houston, San Francisco-Oakland, Inland Empire (Riverside, Bernadino, Ontario), San Diego, San Antonio, Portland, Sacramento, Austin

Albequerque Heisenbergs

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[Flames1217]

Relocate the Coyotes to Quebec.

Expand to both Houston and Portland.

Problem solved and owners make a ton of cash on expansion/relocation fees.

[Gemnoble]

Please let that be it, good lord this has been a slow motion trainwreck for a decade.

[Geeoff]

I'm interested to see how the league will function if the Coyotes are trying to make their team better instead of just taking everyone's bad cap hits

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Relocate the Coyotes to Quebec.

Expand to both Houston and Portland.

Problem solved and owners make a ton of cash on expansion/relocation fees.

Can NHL rosters survive with these expansion rules essentially handing out a strong team from the get go?

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by jayswin

One wrinkle we're seeing in the last 15 years or so in terms of relocation and/or expansion is that hockey/basketball arenas used to be the same thing.

Now basketball markets/ownership groups are starting to say "why do we have to build arenas to host hockey when those arenas are way too long for basketball?". And with basketball interest scorching while hockey interest starts to fall, that is the result.

This is very true. Houston is interesting because that arena was already built for hockey and probably has a fair bit of life left in it.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Just imagine reading all this if you’re the one who wants to own a team in Houston.

“Yeah, we love the idea and all, but we think we can hit you up for more money later. Please be patient!”

TBF if money is not a factor, you are waaay better off getting an expansion team under the current rules than you are getting the Coyotes

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Just imagine reading all this if you’re the one who wants to own a team in Houston.

“Yeah, we love the idea and all, but we think we can hit you up for more money later. Please be patient!”

I think whether expansion or buying the Coyotes, a group in Houston (or wherever) would end up paying the same thing. Basically whatever the Coyotes sell for and then a relocation fee to the League which would probably make the total close to $1 billion.