[News] Flames and Treliving agree to part ways. Maloney promoted to PoHO and interim GM

[Enoch Root]

If anyone was ill advised with respect to Fox, it was the Canes.

[bluejays]

It's kinda funny around here at times. Some here are so concerned with Treliving being blocked thinking it'll tarnish the organization. No player is going to care sweet f-all if the Flames did that. I applaud the move. They don't have to play the desperate cougar at every twist and turn. They have to protect their draft intel, good for them.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Ped

The benefit is, for example, with Sutter getting fired, he's still under contract. They still have to pay him for the next 2 years or whatever the contract was.


If the person gets hired by another organization, then you don't have to pay him, although I seem to recall that if say, New York hired him and paid him less, the Flames would be on the hook to makeup the shortfall.


Also, I do believe the person has to make an attempt to get hired, although I could be wrong. In which case Sutter might not get paid.

There is no requirement to mitigate under a fixed term contract.
You can if you want, but have no obligation to do so.

[MrMike]

Also, it’s usual for someone with a lesser position applying/interviewing for a promotion from his current role to be allowed. I don’t think the Flames are asking to interview any other “currently under contract as another teams General Manager” right now. Lebrun is out to lunch.

[bluejays]

Lebrun is a mouthpiece and kissass to anyone who'll feed him info. Don't know why he's beloved so much.

[Ashasx]

CP hates

- Lebrun
- Seravalli
- Friedman

You're next Bob McKenzie

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lebrun is not bad at all probably the most respectable reporter left and he has legit news on the Flames.

The Flames are being petty it's obvious to everyone hurt feelings but that's Edwards choice

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

CP hates

- Lebrun
- Seravalli
- Friedman

You're next Bob McKenzie

So far, one poster is calling LeBrun names. Don't lump CP in with that singular poster.


As for Serivalli and Eliott, have at er. They both have some sort of axe to grind with the city and it's team.

[Ashasx]

as i was saying

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

as i was saying

Flames bad, terrible joke of an organization?

[Ashasx]

yep

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by dammage79

So far, one poster is calling LeBrun names. Don't lump CP in with that singular poster.


As for Serivalli and Eliott, have at er. They both have some sort of axe to grind with the city and it's team.

I also think [every PbP Announcer in the history of Earth] hates my local team.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dammage79

So far, one poster is calling LeBrun names. Don't lump CP in with that singular poster.


As for Serivalli and Eliott, have at er. They both have some sort of axe to grind with the city and it's team.

“Boo hoo. Everyone is picking on us.” Some of you are starting to sound like Oilers fans thinking everyone is out to get them. Ask Oilers, Canucks, or Senators fans as when your organization makes news for the wrong reasons, it tends to make news for insiders. The media has absolutely nothing against the Flames as they are simply doing their jobs reporting on the messy way this season unfolded for the organization.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Problem is this is probably 100% what it is.

No, I think this is a "our draft board in a once in a decade draft where Pittsburgh drafts 2 spots before Calgary is secret and needs to be protected" more than it's personal I think.

Saying you can interview him in 6 weeks will not eliminate him from any job someone wants him for or cause any real hardship. You can't have your GM spilling the beans on who you want to draft 16th to the team drafting 14th.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

No, I think this is a "our draft board in a once in a decade draft where Pittsburgh drafts 2 spots before Calgary is secret and needs to be protected" more than it's personal I think.

Saying you can interview him in 6 weeks will not eliminate him from any job someone wants him for or cause any real hardship. You can't have your GM spilling the beans on who you want to draft 16th to the team drafting 14th.

If he knows the board that well while sitting at home what keeps him from just telling Pittsburgh to stick it back to Edward's?

What if actually wanted this job and got blocked he could be pissed.

I don't think he's that types of person but you never know.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

If he knows the board that well while sitting at home what keeps him from just telling Pittsburgh to stick it back to Edward's?

What if actually wanted this job and got blocked he could be pissed.

I don't think he's that types of person but you never know.

He could, but who wants a GM that would be that vindictive? Remember that the guy who hires Treliving knows that there's a 90% chance he'll be firing him too one day.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

If he knows the board that well while sitting at home what keeps him from just telling Pittsburgh to stick it back to Edward's?

What if actually wanted this job and got blocked he could be pissed.

I don't think he's that types of person but you never know.

Well, it’d be a serious breach of contract for one. And he likely has contractual duties of confidentiality even after he leaves.

[FlamesAddiction]

I have nothing against LeBrun, but I doubt that he has enough reference points to know whether it is odd or not. GMs rarely just walk away from a job, and for ones that did, did the media look into whether access for interviews was granted or not? It's fine if it is his opinion, we're all entitled to it, but it's not news. His opinion on whether it is odd or not isn't fact (at least he did not demonstrate that), nor is it news.

We also don't know why Treliving even left. According to his long time friend and colleague, it was because he needed to take a break and was very unlikely to work next season. Now we are hearing that he was denied an opportunity to talk to Pittsburgh about a job just a few short weeks later? I am starting to get the feeling that Treliving may not be totally innocent in whatever issues there were. At the very least, without more information, I am not going to just automatically assume that Edwards is being unreasonable or doesn't have a right to be pissed off at him.

We also don't know if Pittsburgh was offering any kind of compensation. What if Pittsburgh said they wanted to interview him, and the Flames asked what they get in return if they want to hire him before July 1st, and they said nothing? Since everyone is making up stuff to fill in the gaps, it could easily be that. I'd tell them to buzz off too. Treliving has all the Flames scouting and inside info that the Flames paid him to collect. Not just regarding the draft, but regarding other players around the league, Flames players, and Flames prospects. Why help facilitate his move to another team just to take that information somewhere else, especially if we don't know whether the Flames would be compensated or what compensation was proposed?

Without more information, there isn't much to even think about.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, it’d be a serious breach of contract for one. And he likely has contractual duties of confidentiality even after he leaves.

Yeah that's tampering. Treliving decided not to do anything at the trade deadline saying the team wasn't showing enough. Part of it could be his friction with Darryl, or he knew a number of players didn't want to come back. But at this point there were even rumblings Treliving might be going elsewhere. It just points to the fact there were a lot of things going on and the organization might have other reasons for not releasing Treliving for interviews on this point.

It is entirely possible it is not personal.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

We also don't know why Treliving even left. According to his long time friend and colleague, it was because he needed to take a break and was very unlikely to work next season.

That could easily just be Treliving telling his inner circle that he could use a break. It's probably true (no one questioned how hard he works) and it's also a butt cover in case he doesn't get an acceptable offer right away. I highly doubt he would turn down another GM position.

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

We also don't know if Pittsburgh was offering any kind of compensation. What if Pittsburgh said they wanted to interview him, and the Flames asked what they get in return if they want to hire him before July 1st, and they said nothing?

Pretty sure that's not a thing anymore. I believe the NHL got rid of compensation for executives quite awhile ago. I remember oiler fans whining that they had to pay compensation for Chiapet just before the rule change?