[LOL] Coyotes release their STH seating chart for their 5000 person arena

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1597817545758679040

Now, we'll see what the people have to say. I wonder how much money the Suns and City of Glendale will pour into pushing the "No" side? It's better for both of them if there isn't another big arena to take away concert dates from their buildings.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You think they got their name on NHL helmets for 100k or something?
"non-profit" can be misleading...they obviously have money to burn on "business expenses"

point being in the original context they aren't broke like the guy said...they have a massive revenue stream selling things they get for free.

The point is they are a not for profit organization. Full stop. It’s not a subjective term so maybe you’re just not clear on what it means.

You think they’re paying the Coyotes millions? Based on what? How massive is the revenue stream for Goodwill Industries of Arizona?

My point is them advertising on a hockey helmet is dumb and I promise the Coyotes aren’t getting much out of it.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

The point is they are a not for profit organization. Full stop. It’s not a subjective term so maybe you’re just not clear on what it means.

You think they’re paying the Coyotes millions? Based on what? How massive is the revenue stream for Goodwill Industries of Arizona?

My point is them advertising on a hockey helmet is dumb and I promise the Coyotes aren’t getting much out of it.

Well it kinda is...there are CEOs higher ups of many non-profits doing quite well for themselves. Not sure about current data but a previous CEO made 500k per year.

the deal is 1M/year for only home games on a multi year deal (millions)

the company makes billions...most of it goes to charity but they are far from broke

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1597817545758679040

Now, we'll see what the people have to say. I wonder how much money the Suns and City of Glendale will pour into pushing the "No" side? It's better for both of them if there isn't another big arena to take away concert dates from their buildings.

The Suns won't push any money into it, they are in the middle of the sale of their own team. City of Phoenix will surely be doing something, and probably dark money out of Quebec.

I don't think the City or the Team would've pushed for referendum if they weren't confident it would pass. It removes pretty much any legal challenge if it is approved.

One step further, this model is truly what all future arena deals need to be.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well it kinda is...there are CEOs higher ups of many non-profits doing quite well for themselves. Not sure about current data but a previous CEO made 500k per year.

the deal is 1M/year for only home games on a multi year deal (millions)

the company makes billions...most of it goes to charity but they are far from broke

Dude, it is the charity. When you read the wiki article on the CEO pay for the Oregon branch did you also read that Goodwill is a registered not for profit?

Reference for your data on the helmet deal? This article states it is worth "almost $1 million". Like I said earlier, it is ridiculous for both the Coyotes and an org like Goodwill.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...nsor-deal-nhl/

You want to define things your own way and I got suckered into a pointless internet debate. Sorry for responding to your comment.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

The Suns won't push any money into it, they are in the middle of the sale of their own team. City of Phoenix will surely be doing something, and probably dark money out of Quebec.

I don't think the City or the Team would've pushed for referendum if they weren't confident it would pass. It removes pretty much any legal challenge if it is approved.

One step further, this model is truly what all future arena deals need to be.

strange how you can be such a cheerleader to the nth degree for anything Arizona does, but be such a jerk in any thread to do with a Flames arena.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

strange how you can be such a cheerleader to the nth degree for anything Arizona does, but be such a jerk in any thread to do with a Flames arena.

Yeah because it’s been so wonderful and easy being a coyotes fan..

And a flames fan to be honest, worst 2 teams to be a fan of on earth in regards to heartbreak and pain..

That said, Murray Edwards is a horrible owner and won’t do anything close to what Alex Meruello is putting into the Tempe deal. Why would I sugar coat it? But that’s for the Calgary arena thread..

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

Yeah because it’s been so wonderful and easy being a coyotes fan..

And a flames fan to be honest, worst 2 teams to be a fan of on earth in regards to heartbreak and pain..

That said, Murray Edwards is a horrible owner and won’t do anything close to what Alex Meruello is putting into the Tempe deal. Why would I sugar coat it? But that’s for the Calgary arena thread..

The NHL seemingly will go to any lengths on this planet to keep the coyotes in Arizona despite how much money that team has lost the rest of the owners. They, however will thinly veil a relocation threat to Calgary because they need a new arena...or else.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

strange how you can be such a cheerleader to the nth degree for anything Arizona does, but be such a jerk in any thread to do with a Flames arena.

His two positions might appear to be different, but from my viewpoint they are exactly the same.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Dude, it is the charity. When you read the wiki article on the CEO pay for the Oregon branch did you also read that Goodwill is a registered not for profit?

Reference for your data on the helmet deal? This article states it is worth "almost $1 million". Like I said earlier, it is ridiculous for both the Coyotes and an org like Goodwill.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...nsor-deal-nhl/

You want to define things your own way and I got suckered into a pointless internet debate. Sorry for responding to your comment.

You said they had no money...they are spending millions on helmet ads for an NHL team
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there is no debate...I know a lot of people who do quite well from their "non-profits" welcome to the real world

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You said they had no money...they are spending millions on helmet ads for an NHL team
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there is no debate...I know a lot of people who do quite well from their "non-profits" welcome to the real world

My guess is that the helmet deal that is reported to be "worth almost $1 million" is likely about $200K a year for a several years. With an out clause. But if you have data or a media report to the contrary, please share and I will stand corrected.

Goodwill, just like other NFP's, does advertise. They raise money by drawing traffic to their stores. But what a dumb way to spend their limited advertising budget.

[dino7c]

My entire point is that they have money to blow and obviously blow it

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

My guess is that the helmet deal that is reported to be "worth almost $1 million" is likely about $200K a year for a several years. With an out clause. But if you have data or a media report to the contrary, please share and I will stand corrected.

Goodwill, just like other NFP's, does advertise. They raise money by drawing traffic to their stores. But what a dumb way to spend their limited advertising budget.

Maybe you could show where you have heard this from!

[getbak]

It's almost time for this saga to end one way or the other. The voting on the Tempe Arena propositions ends tomorrow night at 7:00pm AZ Time.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...w/70181438007/

If this passes, it should pave the way for the beginning of the project. If it fails, you'd have to think it will signal the beginning of the end of the Coyotes in Arizona (although, we've said that before).

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by getbak

It's almost time for this saga to end one way or the other. The voting on the Tempe Arena propositions ends tomorrow night at 7:00pm AZ Time.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...w/70181438007/

If this passes, it should pave the way for the beginning of the project. If it fails, you'd have to think it will signal the beginning of the end of the Coyotes in Arizona (although, we've said that before).

Tempe could do much better for that chunk of land than an unstable NHL franchise, hopefully people there realize that.

[JBR]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Tempe could do much better for that chunk of land than an unstable NHL franchise, hopefully people there realize that.

It’s been sitting vacant for ages. Not like anyone is lining up to develop it.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Tempe could do much better for that chunk of land than an unstable NHL franchise, hopefully people there realize that.

This take is so hot I put my oven mitts on to read it.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by getbak

It's almost time for this saga to end one way or the other. The voting on the Tempe Arena propositions ends tomorrow night at 7:00pm AZ Time.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...w/70181438007/

If this passes, it should pave the way for the beginning of the project. If it fails, you'd have to think it will signal the beginning of the end of the Coyotes in Arizona (although, we've said that before).

What is the latest with the lawsuit between Phoenix and Tempe over their ability to develop this land? It seems to be quiet for the last month.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

What is the latest with the lawsuit between Phoenix and Tempe over their ability to develop this land? It seems to be quiet for the last month.

Phoenix is acting on behalf of the airport, since they own it. They are not acting on behalf of the FAA, which has authority over the flight path.

From what I've read, Phoenix is acting to protect their interests in the Footprint Center as the Tempe arena would compete for other event bookings and are using the airport as an excuse to oppose the project.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Tempe could do much better for that chunk of land than an unstable NHL franchise, hopefully people there realize that.

They're unstable because of the last move out of Phoenix to a friken retire home in Glendale, this proposed area is perfect, smack in the middle between Phoenix, Tempe and Scottsdale, and 5 minutes from the Phoenix airport.

Coyotes would have zero problems selling out a barn there.