05-15-2023, 02:32 PM
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#10761
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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today it's 44-43 UCP too many toss ups for NDP
https://338canada.com/alberta/districts.htm
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05-15-2023, 02:36 PM
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#10762
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
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Janet Brown has a poll leaked today that shows it's not close at all.
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05-15-2023, 02:40 PM
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#10763
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I keep thinking they won’t elect a dumber leader but Smith is worse that Kenny so who knows.
Having said that, I don’t see them finding a bigger idiot that Smith.
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If they're able to, it might be the only impressive thing TBA has done.
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05-15-2023, 02:41 PM
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#10764
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I keep thinking they won’t elect a dumber leader but Smith is worse that Kenny so who knows.
Having said that, I don’t see them finding a bigger idiot that Smith.
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If the UCP has shown us anything, it is that there is always a bigger idiot.
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05-15-2023, 02:48 PM
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#10765
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Having said that, I don’t see them finding a bigger idiot that Smith.
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Rob Anderson says hi.
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05-15-2023, 03:01 PM
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#10766
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Franchise Player
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Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I keep thinking they won’t elect a dumber leader but Smith is worse that Kenny so who knows.
Having said that, I don’t see them finding a bigger idiot that Smith.
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Even worse is they may find someone smarter than her. I wouldn’t trust her to organize a separation but I’m sure they can find a more compelling and savvy cheerleader.
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05-15-2023, 03:04 PM
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#10767
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by edslunch
Even worse is they may find someone smarter than her. I wouldn’t trust her to organize a separation but I’m sure they can find a more compelling and savvy cheerleader.
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The money backing the privatization of helathcare is not going anywhere. The vultures are circling, they will keep trying until they get their pay day.
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05-15-2023, 03:20 PM
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#10768
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I keep thinking they won’t elect a dumber leader but Smith is worse that Kenny so who knows.
Having said that, I don’t see them finding a bigger idiot that Smith.
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So they'll find someone smarter to implement the exact same hard right policies. That's even worse
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05-15-2023, 03:33 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
The money backing the privatization of helathcare is not going anywhere. The vultures are circling, they will keep trying until they get their pay day.
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What does the privatization of healthcare really mean? Seems like a blanket statement like free healthcare. So will it be a few labs? A few clinics? Full blown everything costs money? How crazy is this idea?
Even Quebec, the Legault government, is planning on introducing more private medical care.
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05-15-2023, 03:37 PM
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#10770
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
What does the privatization of healthcare really mean? Seems like a blanket statement like free healthcare. So will it be a few labs? A few clinics? Full blown everything costs money? How crazy is this idea?
Even Quebec, the Legault government, is planning on introducing more private medical care.
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Well she's mused about giving hospitals over to private corporations to run. How can she do that? Well, see first you need a provincial police force, and then you can ignore Canadian laws or somsuch. She's said so much frightening #### lately, it's tough to keep track. But I think it is safe to say nothing is off the table.
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05-15-2023, 03:38 PM
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#10771
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
Well she's mused about giving hospitals over to private corporations to run. How can she do that? Well, see first you need a provincial police force, and then you can ignore Canadian laws or somsuch. She's said so much frightening #### lately, it's tough to keep track. But I think it is safe to say nothing is off the table.
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True, although she just said hospitals are safe, only surgeries are going private. i know i know, promises, promises.
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05-15-2023, 03:45 PM
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#10772
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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05-15-2023, 03:47 PM
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#10773
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
True, although she just said hospitals are safe, only surgeries are going private. i know i know, promises, promises.
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Those aren't promises, they mean nothing at all. But still, privatizing surgeries isn't some magical money saving method.
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Do private, for-profit clinics save taxpayers money and reduce wait times? The data says no
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/priva...oney-1.6777470
But then, this should be kinda obvious.
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05-15-2023, 03:50 PM
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#10774
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
What does the privatization of healthcare really mean? Seems like a blanket statement like free healthcare. So will it be a few labs? A few clinics? Full blown everything costs money? How crazy is this idea?
Even Quebec, the Legault government, is planning on introducing more private medical care.
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despite in past federal elections the spectre of 'alberta style private health care' Quebec has, amongst the provinces, often been more in front of this (at least in some areas) than other provinces, moreso than Alberta
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05-15-2023, 04:00 PM
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#10775
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
What does the privatization of healthcare really mean? Seems like a blanket statement like free healthcare. So will it be a few labs? A few clinics? Full blown everything costs money? How crazy is this idea?
Even Quebec, the Legault government, is planning on introducing more private medical care.
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Quebec is planning on facilities that are basically urgent care. Between family medicine and the hospital. They aren't talking about giving their large hospitals to private organizations.
There's absolutely zero reason for Smith to even suggest this plan. Our new lab system is an absolute disaster in every way. Things are much worse.
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05-15-2023, 04:04 PM
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#10776
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Franchise Player
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@TRexMD780 on Twitter
“If you vote in the UCP, you will lose your Family Doctor within the next 5-10yrs.
“I promise. Screenshot this. Remind me in 5 yrs.
“We are already all looking at exit plans. We have been since 2020. I don't know a GP who hasn't “
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05-15-2023, 04:06 PM
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#10777
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
@TRexMD780 on Twitter
“If you vote in the UCP, you will lose your Family Doctor within the next 5-10yrs.
“I promise. Screenshot this. Remind me in 5 yrs.
“We are already all looking at exit plans. We have been since 2020. I don't know a GP who hasn't “
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This is really dependent on whether the plans are implemented. Smith may be talking a big game. If she does what she says, it's going to be a gong show.
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05-15-2023, 04:10 PM
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#10778
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
I don't know why the NDP aren't hammering home the Alberta Pension Plan, the Alberta Police Force and all of the other crazy ideas that will happen if Smith is elected for the first time.
Just because the UCP said they didn't want to talk about doesn't mean they are not issues.
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What would this achieve? If Calgary is the battleground these are two issues that really don't matter to most Calgarians, there would not be much to be gained from this strategy.
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Well she's mused about giving hospitals over to private corporations to run. How can she do that? Well, see first you need a provincial police force, and then you can ignore Canadian laws or somsuch. She's said so much frightening #### lately, it's tough to keep track. But I think it is safe to say nothing is off the table.
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I'm not in favor of this scale of privatization but the way you worded this made me think perhaps the intention is to turn the administration of facilities over to private business. That does not necessarily mean the delivery of health care will be privatized. Conceivably you can still provide public services inside a facility that is managed privately.
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05-15-2023, 04:14 PM
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#10779
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Muta
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Is this the second one? Wasn't one disqualified from a nomination?
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05-15-2023, 04:25 PM
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#10780
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
I'm not in favor of this scale of privatization but the way you worded this made me think perhaps the intention is to turn the administration of facilities over to private business. That does not necessarily mean the delivery of health care will be privatized. Conceivably you can still provide public services inside a facility that is managed privately.
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Like bloodwork, which has become atrocious since it was privatized.
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