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Old 05-09-2023, 11:44 AM   #841
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Might be, if there is a guy Detroit really wants.
Correct, especially if Detroit thinks they are smarter than everyone else and really covet that player.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:46 AM   #842
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late to the party, but:

- THAT franchise going from Kane/Toews to Bedard ... simply gross.
- would have prefered if Fantilli didn't end up in the Pacific either, but it is what it is. At least not Bedard, I guess.
- Weekes announcing CBJ dropping to 3rd and Daly showing the Ducks logo upside down ... amateur hour at best. Embarrassing.
- was never going to happen, but the Flames having a horseshoe for once would have been sweet. Oh well. Let's draft a hall of famer at 16, shall we?
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:46 AM   #843
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Depending on who the Flames are eyeballing, trading down a few spots for a 3rd might not be so bad. There's plenty of gems available there.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:48 AM   #844
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So I can join NY and be on a powerhouse, or I can go to Calgary because their fans support minor hockey... what to do, what to do?

NY would have a strong team no doubt, but I do not think it would be so lop sided.


The salary cap and roster space would limit how many people could end up on a team. So the more players that want to play somewhere, the less attractive it gets (do you want to make good money playing a top line role, or do you want to make league minimum on a farm team).



I also do not think every player has the same motivation and preferences in cities. NYC is great, but not for everyone. Some people like skyscrapers, some like acreages, some like sunny beaches. For others it might me wearing the logo you grew up cheering for, playing in front of your peers. Some people want to be the center of attention, some people want to be some place where nobody knows them.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:55 AM   #845
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The answer is to shorten the time period to UFA status. Dont make the draft more "fair", make it less relevant.
Sure, great idea, let the small market teams develop players so the large market teams can scoop em up at the start of their prime
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:06 PM   #846
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:22 PM   #847
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Isnt it that teams tank and players do not? Sure the team might get Bedard but the player might not be around to see it.
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late to the party, but:

- THAT franchise going from Kane/Toews to Bedard ... simply gross.
- would have prefered if Fantilli didn't end up in the Pacific either, but it is what it is. At least not Bedard, I guess.
- Weekes announcing CBJ dropping to 3rd and Daly showing the Ducks logo upside down ... amateur hour at best. Embarrassing.
- was never going to happen, but the Flames having a horseshoe for once would have been sweet. Oh well. Let's draft a hall of famer at 16, shall we?
Let’s just see if this one can take a regular shift in the league first.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:33 PM   #849
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There are generally good players available within 5 picks of 16.

2012:
16-Wilson
17-Hertl
18-Teravainen
19-Vasilevskiy
20-Laughton

2014:
16-Milano
17-Sanheim
18-Tuch
19-DeAngelo
20-Schmaltz

2015:
16-Barzal
17-Connor
18-Chabot
19-E Svechnikov
20- Joel Eriksson Ek

2016:
16-Chychrun
17-Fabbro
18-Stanley
19-Bellows

2017
16-Valimaki
17-Liljegren
18-Vaakanainen
19-Norris
20-Thomas

2019
16-Newhook
17-Krebs
18-Harley
19-Thomson
20-Heinola

2020
16-Guhle
17-Reichel
18-Mercer
19-Schneider
20-Mukhamadullin

Good players will be there. Flames just have to pick the right guy
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Old 05-09-2023, 01:06 PM   #850
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I wonder if the Blackhawk's owner does the whole Katz-McDavid marriage proposal at the draft with Bedard.
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Old 05-09-2023, 03:16 PM   #851
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Sure, great idea, let the small market teams develop players so the large market teams can scoop em up at the start of their prime
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Old 05-09-2023, 03:46 PM   #852
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My wildly unpopular opinion for this is that we should let the players choose.


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You don't remember the dynasty that the Habs were able to build this way in 50's and 60's?
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Old 05-09-2023, 03:55 PM   #853
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The Foss does have a solution for the Tanking problem: Enforce the same laws that prosecute "game fixing" and "point shaving." In this electronic age, there may be a traceable trail of communications that could be used as evidence. I, for one, am sick of the lack of criminal prosecutions of white collar criminals, and, laws do exist for these kind of behaviors, that were meant to target organized crime.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:58 PM   #854
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One word, as Peter Loubardias would say, "look out".

Talked with CP's outstanding residential NHL draft specialist Sandman and I've put together his awesome prospect profiles (so far) on our website - Upside Hockey.

Have them in the order of our most recent lottery edition rankings.

Check it out at:
https://bit.ly/upsidenhldraftprofiles
Another update including Sandman's latest draft thoughts.
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What are people's thoughts on Otto Stenberg? I have seen him ranked as high as 17 and as low as 64. Sounds like the guy could be a sleeper to take in the second round.
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Old 05-09-2023, 09:15 PM   #856
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What are people's thoughts on Otto Stenberg? I have seen him ranked as high as 17 and as low as 64. Sounds like the guy could be a sleeper to take in the second round.
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I work with someone whose son plays with Stenberg. Speaks very highly of his character
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Oh well. Let's draft a hall of famer at 16, shall we?
Oh this is a monkey’s paw wish if I ever saw one; don’t know why you would even tempt fate with it. Now watch as the Flames draft second best player in draft, ends up hall of fame, he just refuses to sign with the Flames and they get the 48th pick as compensation.
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Old 05-09-2023, 09:31 PM   #859
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Joe Sakic was drafted 15th overall…
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Old 05-09-2023, 09:32 PM   #860
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I wouldn’t mind Matthew Wood at 16, seems like he’s ranked around our range but I think he will be gone. I can easily seeing him going top 5 in previous year drafts. There are going to be special players all around us, lets hope they pick the right one - really need a blue chip prospect here

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