Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Reggie Dunlop]

Canadian Gilead.

[Faust]

I’ve made an edit to the previous posting from the Jason Markusoff article - the quotes from Take Back Alberta are something else - anyone voting for the UCP needs to understand that this is what you are signing Alberta up for during the next four years if you help them to a majority government.

[Ozy_Flame]

Not sure if posted, but TBA is trying to obscure/hide themselves from the public and their associated baggage that they suck and are puppeteering the UCP.

Anyone voting UCP is effectively voting for these people and their greasiness.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1653111179391434752

[PepsiFree]

Hilarious.

NDP and generally non-UCP supporters alike: “If you vote for UCP, you’re an idiot.”

Current Premier and her advisors: “If you don’t support us, you’re Nazi Soviets and we’ll shoot our way out of your control.”

Casual internet user: “I don’t know guys, NDP supporters seem mean so I can’t associate myself with that.”

lol

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Slava

But the thing is, NDP supporters going around telling people how dumb they are for voting UCP don’t want to hear why they’d vote UCP. They just want to tell everyone how smart they are and how stupid these other people are. You can’t have a legitimate discussion in that circumstance.

Why would somebody of any reasonable intelligence vote for the UCP?

[DFO]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Why would somebody of any reasonable intelligence vote for the UCP?

They happen to be morally bankrupt?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Faust

I’ve made an edit to the previous posting from the Jason Markusoff article - the quotes from Take Back Alberta are something else - anyone voting for the UCP needs to understand that this is what you are signing Alberta up for during the next four years if you help them to a majority government.

Anyone who is still supporting the UCP right now will never change their minds no matter what the UCP do now. Danielle Smith can shoot someone on 8th Ave and get away with murder with these guys.... because NDP...

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Hilarious.

NDP and generally non-UCP supporters alike: “If you vote for UCP, you’re an idiot.”

Current Premier and her advisors: “If you don’t support us, you’re Nazi Soviets and we’ll shoot our way out of your control.”

Casual internet user: “I don’t know guys, NDP supporters seem mean so I can’t associate myself with that.”

lol

It's so intellectually bankrupt that it's impossible to conceive of someone so stupid. Yet, here it is, in this very thread.

To me it confirms wanton ignorance and purposefully immoral posture. There's a certain amorality to this type of activity. It's sinister, insidious, and down right despicable. It's almost Yoho level antipathy for society.

Also, speak of the moron, I thought we weren't allowing yoho to quote tweets of themselves?

[Muta]

Love seeing the abundance of NDP lawn signs in Killarney. Almost 3-1 in number to the UCP.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Muta

Love seeing the abundance of NDP lawn signs in Killarney. Almost 3-1 in number to the UCP.

Ya, I was surprised yesterday. Very noticeable difference.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Muta

Love seeing the abundance of NDP lawn signs in Killarney. Almost 3-1 in number to the UCP.

Drove in Bowness yesterday and up Home Road. Druh Farrell signs were like 30 to 1! and the one had both signs on their lawn.

I love her and how she makes all the rightwingers lose it in here! lol hahaha

I'm 1000% ok with her closing off Home Road and making it into a weekend water slide all summer!

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Muta

Love seeing the abundance of NDP lawn signs in Killarney. Almost 3-1 in number to the UCP.

Spruce Cliff and Wildwood are similar. We have started to see more signs for Milliken popping up—expect part of it is the NDP has been getting theirs up more quickly. My parents are in the Marda Loop area, and there it’s more like 5-1.

On my street the count is exactly 3-1 for the NDP—but the UCP supporter put two signs on opposite ends of his lawn to make it look like two different houses, which I found kind of hilarious. I have no idea how much the “sign war” actually matters, but the campaigns sure seem to treat it like it does.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Benita Pedersen organized the hospital protests where cancer patients and their families were harassed.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

Love seeing the abundance of NDP lawn signs in Killarney. Almost 3-1 in number to the UCP.

Nicolas Milliken is a dolt, and he barely won in 2019. After all the damage the UCP has done, I suspect Currie will be NDP again.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Nicolas Milliken is a dolt, and he barely won in 2019. After all the damage the UCP has done, I suspect Currie will be NDP again.

His 'attack flyer' on Notley that us residents received was super cringe too. I made a paper airplane out of it and flew it into the trash.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Why would somebody of any reasonable intelligence vote for the UCP?

There are many reasons. Alot of the discussion in this thread is about the extremes and about the headlines.

However, people are mostly one-issue voters and don't look at the extremes. I'll give you one example in my world. The non-union Alberta employee wage freeze.

2016:
https://calgaryherald.com/news/polit...-salary-freeze

The move will freeze the salaries — and movement within salary grids — for roughly 7,000 senior officials, managers and other non-unionized government employees at 2015 levels until at least April 2018, Ceci said.

Ceci said he expects it will keep roughly $57 million in provincial coffers over two years.

He said the freeze won’t affect unionized public employees and dismissed the idea of reopening negotiated contracts.

Two year wage freeze turned into 6 years. With the UCP, they stopped the freeze and there has been two one time wage increases. One in mid 2022 of 12% to make people who were there from the start whole again and then another increase at the end of 2022, and expecting another one later this year.

2022:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...ends-1.6403001

Thousands of Alberta government managers and non-unionized workers will receive pay raises Friday — some of them for the first time in six years.

In late December, the United Conservative Party government decided to end a six-year wage freeze for more than 3,700 provincial government employees.

I'm one of these managers and was not able to receive a raise nor increase wages of my employees nor increase the head count of my team even though the workload has increase 3-fold. Something iggy_oi has blasted me about for years, very fairly. Girly doesn't pay her employees, well, I can't.

So if you're a non-union Alberta provincial worker, why would you vote for the NDP who could freezing your wages again?

[sketchyt]

I've seen an uncomfortable amount of Tyler Shandro signs.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

I've seen an uncomfortable amount of Tyler Shandro signs.

I can set you up with a whole bunch of "DO NOT FOR" signs you can attach to them.


LOL. I would really suck at making signs and I would have to give you a refund... hahaha "DO NOT VOTE FOR" ......

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Hilarious.

NDP and generally non-UCP supporters alike: “If you vote for UCP, you’re an idiot.”

Current Premier and her advisors: “If you don’t support us, you’re Nazi Soviets and we’ll shoot our way out of your control.”

Casual internet user: “I don’t know guys, NDP supporters seem mean so I can’t associate myself with that.”

lol

For the record if I was okay with being associated with the Premier and her advisors I wouldn't have made the post would I because my decision would be made. I don't think it's any secret that I feel I don't align with either side as I have major issues with right and left wing parties and their supporters.

[craigwd]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

There are many reasons. Alot of the discussion in this thread is about the extremes and about the headlines.

However, people are mostly one-issue voters and don't look at the extremes. I'll give you one example in my world. The non-union Alberta employee wage freeze.

2016:
https://calgaryherald.com/news/polit...-salary-freeze



Two year wage freeze turned into 6 years. With the UCP, they stopped the freeze and there has been two one time wage increases. One in mid 2022 of 12% to make people who were there from the start whole again and then another increase at the end of 2022, and expecting another one later this year.

2022:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...ends-1.6403001




I'm one of these managers and was not able to receive a raise nor increase wages of my employees nor increase the head count of my team even though the workload has increase 3-fold. Something iggy_oi has blasted me about for years, very fairly. Girly doesn't pay her employees, well, I can't.

So if you're a non-union Alberta provincial worker, why would you vote for the NDP who could freezing your wages again?

Isn't the entire Conservative/UCP mantra to cut the public service over and over again because.....efficiencies?


I would rather have a safe job with a raise once in a while than no job.