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Old 05-08-2023, 12:30 PM   #14621
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Remove Boston and Vancouver and you have something interesting.

Lindholm for Lafreniere and Miller

Slight add on our end and it's close IMO.
I think you'd need to have Lindholm extended for that to be fair. A 40 point 21 year old 1st overall and a 43 point 22 year old defenseman? We'd be adding a lot.
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:13 PM   #14622
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If Krejci and Bergeron leave the Bruins are in for a rough one next season.
Really feels like a Backlund to Bruins deal makes too much sense this offseason …
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:16 PM   #14623
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Yes, that type of trade we could be doing.

Of course, the rangers would moving those guys because they cannot afford them.

They would be looking for picks and prospects..
I agree with the subsequent post that we'd likely need to add to Lindy without extension in place, but I don't think the add is substantial. Maybe it's Tanev. I had earlier suggested Hanifin, with a further add from NYR coming to balance.

I quoted your post Cobra because I think I disagree. I don't think the Rangers are looking for picks and prospects. Their core players are in the peak now, Kreider, Panarin, Fox... They want to go for it IMO. Having a year of lindy at only 4.9 is super valuable to them.
Tanev and Hanifin are conceived in the same way- they are cost controlled for the next season.
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Adam Proteau of The Hockey News wrote an article entitled,"Three Blockbuster Trades for Six Eliminated NHL Teams", where he throws out the following outlandish trade ideas:

To Ottawa: G Connor Hellebuyck
To Winnipeg: F Shane Pinto, F Ridly Greig

To Vancouver: F Alexis Lafreniere, D K'Andre Miller
To NYR: F Brock Boeser, 1st round pick.

To Boston: F Elias Lindholm
To Calgary: F Taylor Hall
Pinto and Greig for a 30 year old goalie? No way.

Pinto scored 20 in his rookie year and Greig is a 1st round pick with plenty of upside. You'd go after Swayman anyways.
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:24 PM   #14625
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I agree with the subsequent post that we'd likely need to add to Lindy without extension in place, but I don't think the add is substantial. Maybe it's Tanev. I had earlier suggested Hanifin, with a further add from NYR coming to balance.

I quoted your post Cobra because I think I disagree. I don't think the Rangers are looking for picks and prospects. Their core players are in the peak now, Kreider, Panarin, Fox... They want to go for it IMO. Having a year of lindy at only 4.9 is super valuable to them.
Tanev and Hanifin are conceived in the same way- they are cost controlled for the next season.
Not going to happen, in that scenario the Rangers ship out $1.85M in contracts and bring in more than $9M, they're already at $78M next year with 8F 4 D and 1G, that would take additional moves just to get under the cap
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:26 PM   #14626
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I agree with the subsequent post that we'd likely need to add to Lindy without extension in place, but I don't think the add is substantial. Maybe it's Tanev. I had earlier suggested Hanifin, with a further add from NYR coming to balance.

I quoted your post Cobra because I think I disagree. I don't think the Rangers are looking for picks and prospects. Their core players are in the peak now, Kreider, Panarin, Fox... They want to go for it IMO. Having a year of lindy at only 4.9 is super valuable to them.
Tanev and Hanifin are conceived in the same way- they are cost controlled for the next season.
I think you are under-rating how important Miller is to them. I don't see them moving him at all, let alone with AF.
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:28 PM   #14627
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Yeah I don't see Miller being moved.

I could see Lindholm at 50% retained being attractive in a trade for one of Kakko or Lafreniere.
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I agree with the subsequent post that we'd likely need to add to Lindy without extension in place, but I don't think the add is substantial. Maybe it's Tanev. I had earlier suggested Hanifin, with a further add from NYR coming to balance.

I quoted your post Cobra because I think I disagree. I don't think the Rangers are looking for picks and prospects. Their core players are in the peak now, Kreider, Panarin, Fox... They want to go for it IMO. Having a year of lindy at only 4.9 is super valuable to them.
Tanev and Hanifin are conceived in the same way- they are cost controlled for the next season.
They are zero cap room, and are only looking to move Lefreniere so they can sign Miller. They especially don't want to move Miller.

They can't afford Lindholm long term, and really don't need another centre all that badly. Lindholm at $4.9M for one year is a great bargain, but not if you are cap strapped to start with. It's a better bargain for a team that can (and wants to) sign him long term.
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:59 PM   #14629
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Boston could be looking to retool.if certain centers retire.

Lindholm be a good option there.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:10 PM   #14630
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Boston could be looking to retool.if certain centers retire.

Lindholm be a good option there.
Lindholm + 2024 (2nd or 3rd) to Boston
Jake Debrusk + Fabian Lysell to Calgary
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:22 PM   #14631
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Lindholm + 2024 (2nd or 3rd) to Boston
Jake Debrusk + Fabian Lysell to Calgary
Unless we flip Debrusk why do we want him? He's a UFA after next year, 0 interest in re-signing him.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:45 PM   #14632
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Boston could be looking to retool.if certain centers retire.

Lindholm be a good option there.
There's no one in Boston outside of guys they will never move, like Pasta McEvoy or Ullmark, that interest me.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:45 PM   #14633
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Unless we flip Debrusk why do we want him? He's a UFA after next year, 0 interest in re-signing him.
Agreed.
If you're trading Lindholm, it has to be for some established skill or solid picks.
Lysell and Debrusk don't move the needle much for the flames long term.

Lafreniere + Miller is interesting, but Miller is due for a huge pay raise, and we'd likely have to add something depth wise to make it happen like perhaps a Kylington.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:48 PM   #14634
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If you are targeting NYR you are more like to get a dman that is redundant for them, not a core piece, so guys like Zac Jones or Braeden Schneider perhaps.
But the cap issues are hard to get past too.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:48 PM   #14635
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If you're dealing Lindholm you better be getting a 1st in return otherwise its a fail.
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No kidding, especially with that contract.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:01 PM   #14637
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I'd like to move Lindholm for picks and youth. But then I'd like to trade for Chandler Stephenson who Vegas might need to move because he's (a) a pending UFA himself and (b) they have Eichel in his way, Karlsson also able to play C and a ton of Cs in the minors.

Vegas could also use a goalie to play with Thompson.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:08 PM   #14638
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If you're dealing Lindholm you better be getting a 1st in return otherwise its a fail.
Depends on if they snag a great younger player or swap him in a hockey trade. The deadline return to beat is a late first and meh prospect
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A team like the Rangers might even be able to convince him to sign an extension immediately.

I'd like Laf and Kakko back. Two 40 point guys with upside still, for one player that is consistent, proved he can be a ppg player and 40 goal scorer. For next year at least, his cap hit would be a big bonus too.

What would the Flames had to add for a deal like that?
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:17 PM   #14640
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I'd like to start the rebuilding process a bit. If people are in it to deal Lindholm, I'd do a 2nd and Nylander for him. After this season is over with this week for the Leafs one or both of Nylander and Marner are gone. If they're looking for two way guys Lindholm may interest to some degree. If they're looking to get a plower who can score every now and then, Kadri back there but I don't think they'll take on that contract.
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