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Old 05-05-2023, 03:59 PM   #1181
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I would add Tanev into the mix, but with 1 year remaining that's not ideal.
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:04 PM   #1182
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Do we really need to be this picky about how long the captain has on their contract? If they can fill the role for the next season, awesome.

This is quite the departure from the run of Todd Simpson, Steve Smith, Dave Lowry, Bob Boughner etc.
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:06 PM   #1183
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If the players want a captain someone better step up this offseason and show it.
Unless Backlund intends to extend at a very team friendly deal which would contradict his trade request and his displeasure this off-season it’s a huge nope for me.

We simply cannot afford more 30+ high paid players if we want to contend, we need to get younger/faster.

I don’t think we have anyone that stands out, Backlund was probably the closest but UFA status pretty much cancels that out for me. Huberdeau? Not after this season as much as I thought he could be. Kadri? Nope. Tanev? See Backlund

Cannot forget both Backlund and Tanev were seen as “co-captains” this year and I’d argue both didn’t succeed…
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:14 PM   #1184
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Huberdeau or Weegar would be at the top of my list. Huberdeau's work with Pelletier and seemingly trying to correct the situation with Sutter strikes me as admirable.
I could see Huberdeau, but man… I would have to see a completely different player next year to like that choice. I respect the position he was put in but he gave little from the fan perspective.

Since he was mentioned, I like Andersson for it actually. Long term guy, young, spirited.

I definitely don’t buy anything around the “needs to sign a team friendly deal first” or “no more 30+ guys on long term contracts.” I especially don’t like pinning our history on Backlund, because if you like what Huberdeau did given the circumstances then I can’t possibly imagine how you would not extend the same to Backlund, an absolute gamer regardless of the circumstances he’s put in. I think people need to get over that stuff quick.
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I could see Huberdeau, but man… I would have to see a completely different player next year to like that choice. I respect the position he was put in but he gave little from the fan perspective.

Since he was mentioned, I like Andersson for it actually. Long term guy, young, spirited.

I definitely don’t buy anything around the “needs to sign a team friendly deal first” or “no more 30+ guys on long term contracts.” I especially don’t like pinning our history on Backlund, because if you like what Huberdeau did given the circumstances then I can’t possibly imagine how you would not extend the same to Backlund, an absolute gamer regardless of the circumstances he’s put in. I think people need to get over that stuff quick.
Agree on Andersson. Guy is a gamer, cares about his team mates and appears to already be a leader. Plus he’s in the long term plans
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Do we really need to be this picky about how long the captain has on their contract? If they can fill the role for the next season, awesome.

This is quite the departure from the run of Todd Simpson, Steve Smith, Dave Lowry, Bob Boughner etc.
If a player is a pending UFA, never know if they will be gone by the trade deadline

Flames need to pick the correct player, someone who be around several years.
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:35 PM   #1187
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Do we really need to be this picky about how long the captain has on their contract? If they can fill the role for the next season, awesome.

This is quite the departure from the run of Todd Simpson, Steve Smith, Dave Lowry, Bob Boughner etc.
I actually don't have an issue with a short-term captain.
This will likely be a VERY different team anyways in the 2024/2025 season.
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We have gone through a lot the last 2 years I don't think naming a captain who could potentially leave is the right thing to do.

We need stability and a face of the franchise to move forward. Giving the C to Huberdeau probably isn't the right move either he has more to worry about this offseason.

Andersson or Weegar would be good choices if Backlund won't sign a long term deal at a discount.
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Old 05-05-2023, 04:55 PM   #1189
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Weegar or Rasmus make alot if sense to me. Backlund is 35 and has requested a trade twice in the last couple years.

Weegar give me more leadership vibes but id lean Rasmus because he's younger, was drafted here, came through the system and weegar has only been here a year.
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Old 05-05-2023, 05:09 PM   #1190
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to me Weegar seems like the clear choice. He came into a new situation and seemed to naturally take a leadership role in the room if rumours of him being a go between the two groups is true. He should be here for the next few years, if not longer. And finally, and important to me, he is a new voice, new face and represents the club moving on which is what I want to see from the club and what they have started with the Tre and Sutter departutures.
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Old 05-05-2023, 05:25 PM   #1191
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I wouldn't do Backlund, not because he doesn't deserve it, but at some point you have to move on from him. It was an injustice he wasn't named in the past but what's done is done. He's not part of the future moving forward. Hope he can be dealt accordingly for a decent return.


Tanev would be ideal if he signs an extension. Huberdeau I'm not sure can handle the pressure of that title. Andersson, hell no (I don't think he's part of the future either). Tanev or Weegar would be my choice.
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Old 05-05-2023, 05:27 PM   #1192
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It should have been Backlund after Gio left. Now it is a tougher call, as I wouldn't want to sign him for more than a 2 year extension.

Funny thing though, I am pretty confident when Backs signed the last contract, there was a lot of moaning of how it was an over pay on a retirement contract which wouldn't age well.
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Old 05-05-2023, 06:12 PM   #1193
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Backlund is a beast

Slap the C on him
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Barf at Backlund with the C. I'd say one of the D like Weegar or Rasmus
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Old 05-05-2023, 06:33 PM   #1195
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Funny thing is, the team makeup hasn't changed from garbage bag day, whch means the talk of wanting to move because of a desire to win and not be on a rebuild was kind of lip service and the real reason was Sutter. Understandable that they didn't want to criticize him publicly especially when he was still there at the time.
What that should tell you is the players has zero faith in the coaching staff, especially the head coach, to properly manage the bench and motivate the team. Sutter's toxic environment was the antithesis of motivating the team. Makes sense the revolt happened.
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Old 05-05-2023, 06:45 PM   #1196
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I don't know if any of the mutineers will play for the Flames next season. I can see a hard set mandate by Murray to shuffle any of them out. It's great you rescinded your trade requests, but uhh we choose not to let you.
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Old 05-05-2023, 06:54 PM   #1197
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So you're going to fire pretty much the whole organization, because it wasn't just a few players that nailed Sutter to the cross?
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Old 05-05-2023, 07:25 PM   #1198
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It was great, I actually really enjoyed playing for him. He’s a really well-respected coach. He’s had a ton of success around the NHL, dating back to even his time in Calgary I think he was the coach and GM in their ’04 run and obviously he won the Stanley Cup with LA and he was a player back in the day. He was someone that I came into, kind of heard a lot of different things from some of the players there that were former teammates, and he was someone I respected. He was a coach I liked playing for, he was kind of my style of coach. We got along great so obviously it’s tough to see him go but it’s part of the business.

I don’t think it’s a surprise that I’m not an offensive defenseman, natural stay at home defenceman, not gonna be a superstar. I feel like I’m a good supporting piece and a depth player. I’m a player that works hard and keeps my mouth shut and he’s a coach that really respects that and expects the best out of you. If you’re gonna pout and you’re gonna complain, which I don’t think I do as an individual, then you’re obviously going to hear from him. So he’s someone that I respect with the fact that if you work hard, he’s going to give you an opportunity and that’s exactly what he gave me in Calgary. He gave me a great opportunity to play an important role for our team on the third pair and play a lot of meaningful minutes so I really enjoyed my time with him.
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I found this experience difficult… We were in a race for the playoffs, but I couldn’t help my team. I understood that the coaches wanted more players with experience. As a player, I wanted to play. It was the first time I had been in the stands for such a long time. I found it hard, but it remains one more experience in the bank.

Darryl in front of the media was a different person… It was a different Darryl in front of us. He doesn’t really like talking about individuals at press conferences with journalists. It could sometimes upset him. When I found myself alone with him, I thought he was a very good man. He’s a family man and he’s funny.

But he remains a asking coach. He is also outspoken. When you do something that doesn’t suit him, you know it pretty quickly.
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So you're going to fire pretty much the whole organization, because it wasn't just a few players that nailed Sutter to the cross?
I can see it. Plus deep down its kind of what the masses wanted anyways. A purge.
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