I'm not trying to say there's no scandal here, but I keep asking and still don't understand what Trudeau gains from a donation to the foundation. Obviously there's a reason the Chinese donated the money, but I can't see a payoff here
You don't see how Trudeau gains politically from better ties with a country of 1 billion+ people and a GDP of 11 trillion at the time?
I mean even Morris Rosenberg excused such in his whataboutism to involve Harper because of course he would (why would he wish to be implicating Harper if he's just the head of a charity foundation that is supposed to have zero political affiliations)
At that time, universities, corporations and governments were all attempting to strengthen ties with China, including Mr. Harper's government,' Morris Rosenberg said
The question that really should be asked is not how Trudeau can gain here, the question should be why would China believe that making a donation to a non-profitable charity would get better ties to Trudeau directly and was successful.
That should not be possible, yet it was. And upon finding out the shady dealing involving how the donation occured, Fournier has been spilling the beans on the shadiness behind the Trudeau Foundation (good on her).
Hopefully the scandal proves enough to topple Trudeau within the liberal party. Then the duel between Carney and Freeland can begin in earnest. Morneau will be trying to kill them both from the sidelines but someone will come along and step on him first.
Hopefully the scandal proves enough to topple Trudeau within the liberal party.
At this point we've reached Donald Trump levels of "surely this scandal will be the one that finally brings ol' Justin down! ... Ah! Well. Nevertheless,"
The Liberals have (apparently correctly) determined that the vast majority of Canadians just don't care about this stuff and they can get away with it.
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You don't see how Trudeau gains politically from better ties with a country of 1 billion+ people and a GDP of 11 trillion at the time?
I mean even Morris Rosenberg excused such in his whataboutism to involve Harper because of course he would (why would he wish to be implicating Harper if he's just the head of a charity foundation that is supposed to have zero political affiliations)
The question that really should be asked is not how Trudeau can gain here, the question should be why would China believe that making a donation to a non-profitable charity would get better ties to Trudeau directly and was successful.
That should not be possible, yet it was. And upon finding out the shady dealing involving how the donation occured, Fournier has been spilling the beans on the shadiness behind the Trudeau Foundation (good on her).
This is exactly what I'm asking. How would Trudeau benefit is the same question as why China thinks they would benefit by making the donation. The foundations finances are publicly available. Maybe I'm missing something here. It's not as though Xi hasn't been openly hostile to Trudeau since so I'm at a loss
There's clearly a scandal within the foundation, that much is clear. How this is tied to Justin Trudeau isn't clear to me.
At this point we've reached Donald Trump levels of "surely this scandal will be the one that finally brings ol' Justin down! ... Ah! Well. Nevertheless,"
The Liberals have (apparently correctly) determined that the vast majority of Canadians just don't care about this stuff and they can get away with it.
Can we just agree that no matter what they say, they have have no idea what is happening in reality. Their worldview is entirely based on some of dumbest twitter accounts they could find.
Whatever happened to his WE pals? Are they still hiding out in Kenya?
Trudeau and 'Charity' have a sordid connection.
They are in DC suing CBC for defamation which in itself is ironic considering they initially were squashing the story for weeks until it grew too large too hide.
Canada's biggest youth charity group with major ties to the Trudeau family goes poof in Canada overnight after a 900 million student grant program was announced, Canada's finance minister loses his job for unrelated reasons after voluntarily revealing he took a trip bribe, and life goes on.
"When our public servants looked at the potential partners, only the WE organization had the capacity to deliver the ambitious program that young people need for for the summer," Trudeau said.
"WE organization is the largest national youth service organization in the country. They have networks in every corner of the country and organizations that they work with."
Remember this when Trudeau directly stated WE was the only organization able to run this massive 900 million grant? Whatever happened to the 900 million Canada Student Service Grant?
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Um... well I am sure it's not too important not like student really needed it. Guess Trudeau was right only WE could administer such a program and with them gone, the grant program went bye bye. Sorry kids (and be sure to thank conservatives for screwing you).
They are in DC suing CBC for defamation which in itself is ironic considering they initially were squashing the story for weeks until it grew too large too hide.
Canada's biggest youth charity group with major ties to the Trudeau family goes poof in Canada overnight after a 900 million student grant program was announced, Canada's finance minister loses his job for unrelated reasons after voluntarily revealing he took a trip bribe, and life goes on.
Remember this when Trudeau directly stated WE was the only organization able to run this massive 900 million grant? Whatever happened to the 900 million Canada Student Service Grant?
"The 7 Most Important Things General Contractors in Albany NY Need to Know?"
Um... well I am sure it's not too important not like student really needed it. Guess Trudeau was right only WE could administer such a program and with them gone, the grant program went bye bye. Sorry kids (and be sure to thank conservatives for screwing you).
I'm sorry, I'm missing something. Why are they in DC (Washington I presume) suing the CBC?
I assumed that they fled to a non-extraditional country (Kenya) but I'm not aware that they've been charged with any crimes.
Those WE guys are either paranoid, or they've done something we dont know about yet...or they're actually dumber than dirt.
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At this point we've reached Donald Trump levels of "surely this scandal will be the one that finally brings ol' Justin down! ... Ah! Well. Nevertheless,"
The Liberals have (apparently correctly) determined that the vast majority of Canadians just don't care about this stuff and they can get away with it.
I said "hopefully". :P
I agree. I disagree about the fault lying with the general population though. I think this is entirely the conservative party's fault. By continually courting the right fringe they have pulled themselves too far from centre for the majority of Canadians to willingly support them. So the default choice outside of the con base doesn't even consider the cons as a potential option. It's libs if you're ok with the corruption, or NDP if you're not. And Block if you're in quebec.
The conservative party needs to abandon the flank. Repudiate it even. Then claim the center, essentially just run as a non-corrupt liberal party. That's the winning ticket. But they won't do it because they're stuck in "haha own the lib" mode, not stupidly realizing that the vast majority of canadians are pretty much the definition of a Lib.
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The choice to some people boils down to the vague notion of potential corruption in some arcane way (let's face it, most people won't intuitively understand how the bribes are potentially working here) vs the almost certainty that we'll be debating things like banning transgendered people from sporting events for 4 years. And people in canada are going to choose corruption.
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But much of the three-day event will be set aside to debate three dozen policy ideas. None are binding on the party, but some could form part of the Liberal platform in the next election.
If the Quebec wing of the party has its way, that will include a promise to balance the budget. The resolution is one of 16 that are being "fast-tracked," which means they will go right to the convention floor for debate and vote, rather than having to go through additional discussions in break-out sessions.
The Liberal wings of each province, as well as the one that represents all three territories, all got to identify one policy resolution for fast-tracking. So did the caucus, and the party's commissions for women, Indigenous Peoples, seniors and youth.
Quebec's Liberals say that after years of high government spending to manage the pandemic, Canada's debt is too high, and they expect Canadians and Conservatives to "place significant importance" on managing debt in the next election.
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The party's grassroots are also pushing for another return to 2015, in a way, with the British Columbia wing fast-tracking a resolution to resume debate on reforming Canada's electoral system.
