2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Mr.Coffee]

Gotta try and trade Kadri now while others may be tricked into thinking he still has some sort of value.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Gotta try and trade Kadri now while others may be tricked into thinking he still has some sort of value.

Now that’s a contract the Flames are stuck with

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

With two years left on his contract, not one.

They tried to get him at the deadline. So two playoff runs

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Now that’s a contract the Flames are stuck with

I dunno about that. Maybe. Maybe the Flames can eat 1 of the 7 mill or something. He still is a 60 point player.

[Sandman]

I look at what the Stars have done- they kind of re-tooled on the fly, knowing they were stuck with Benn and Seguin. The Kings did the same, holding on to some of their aging stars.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I look at what the Stars have done- they kind of re-tooled on the fly, knowing they were stuck with Benn and Seguin. The Kings did the same, holding on to some of their aging stars.

Dallas hit with 2 2nd round picks in hintz and Robertson. In order for flames to pull that off now they would have to have 2 prospects all ready in system to reach that level . Could happen , but only time will tell.

[WickerChicken]

Not expecting Kadri to be traded for futures, but perhaps the new GM can find a change of scenery type of hockey deal with a team looking to move on from a player. With that said, I can't see Kadri being moved if the team decides to trade Backlund and/or Lindholm this off-season. We need some center depth.

[Heavy Jack]

The only big contract with term left Id eat money on right now is Markstrom because Wolf is bashing the door down and I think Vladar/Wolf is a cheeper and more flexible duo to run with than a Markstrom/Wolf combo. I think you have to give Huby and Kadri another year at the very least before you start to consider eating salary to flip them to another team and likely taking back a bloated contract player.

2 of Lindholm, Hanafin, Backlund, Tanev and Toffoli at the very least should be traded in the offseason as well so as to recoup some assets on pending UFAs for once and help kickstart a proper retool. The flames should also be looking to graduate Pelletier, Coronato, Zary and Ruzicka to full time duties and not waste roster spots on Lewis and Ritchie type signings.

I’m really hoping the young, progressive thinking GM Maloney is calling for is found and is allowed to make some decisions on the pending ufa group which is incredibly substantial. I’m not going to get into the Headcoach debate because unfortunately I think Sutter is here for at least half of next year before a decision is made with him but I hope at the very least we look at replacing some of the other coaches on the team especially the goaltending coaches.

I really want them to find the GM sooner than later as well, this is a huge draft for this club and we can’t have another Valimaki type blunder at 16th overall, we need it to be a contributing pick to help with the next 3 years as the team goes into a reshuffle.

My last out there suggestion is to give Blake Coleman the C as well, dude is a two time cup winner, he plays a team game and seems like he could be a solid voice in the locker room for the young talent coming up.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I look at what the Stars have done- they kind of re-tooled on the fly, knowing they were stuck with Benn and Seguin. The Kings did the same, holding on to some of their aging stars.

Drafting can change a lot of things in a hurry. Finding good players in later rounds can absolutely change a teams fortunes quick. Flames may have been in the McDavid mix if they hadn’t found Gaudreau in the 4th in 2011. Stars fortunes changed instantly with Oetinger and Wyatt Johnston as great late first round picks, with savvy second round picks in Robertson and Hintz. That talent turned Jamie Benn back into a near point per game player at age 33 after years of 50 point pace.

If there’s one thing I feel good about with the Flames it’s been their drafting over the last decade. Finding Pelletier and Zary in the late first round looks like great value so far, Coronato looks like he was picked in the right spot, Wolf looks like he should have been a top 10 pick and they may have found Andersson/Kylington type gold again with third round pick Poitier.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Dallas hit with 2 2nd round picks in hintz and Robertson. In order for flames to pull that off now they would have to have 2 prospects all ready in system to reach that level . Could happen , but only time will tell.

No matter what strategy you use, you need to hit on your draft picks. It’s essential to winning.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I look at what the Stars have done- they kind of re-tooled on the fly, knowing they were stuck with Benn and Seguin. The Kings did the same, holding on to some of their aging stars.

I'm not sure the Stars success is overly repeatable as spinning a late 1st and 2nd round pick into a franchise goaltender and franchise forward is a once in a decade kind of thing. Kings suffered through three straight losing seasons to accumulate their draft capital which is the easier way to do it as betting on your scouts to unearth players later in the draft is too tall a task to be overly realistic.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Dallas hit with 2 2nd round picks in hintz and Robertson. In order for flames to pull that off now they would have to have 2 prospects all ready in system to reach that level . Could happen , but only time will tell.

And Oettinger late in the first round when they took Robertson. Got Heiskenan 3rd overall (could have had Makar though).

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Gotta try and trade Kadri now while others may be tricked into thinking he still has some sort of value.

I think the hand we have been dealt is that we are stuck with Kadri and Huberdeau and have to move on from Lindholm and Backlund. Might as well try to make the best of it, even if we have to take a bit of a step back.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I dunno about that. Maybe. Maybe the Flames can eat 1 of the 7 mill or something. He still is a 60 point player.

It's not his production or even his attitude. It's his contract that takes him to 39, that's ridiculous. Only star players should get contracts that long and he isn't one.

[Vinny01]

I have been kicking around a trade thought in my head the past couple of days. It seems like Horvat was a pretty bad fit but t at least a lot less impactful for the Islanders than he was for the Canucks. His massive deal kicks in for next season. Would Lou revisit acquiring Kadri if he could offload Horvat? Flames take on 2 years term and 1.5M more in cap hit but get a guy 4 years younger.

[dammage79]

Maybe, if they're really moving from Backs and Lindholm, might as well give Huberdeau something else to work with. Why not tie up 19m for 8 years.

[thetruefan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I look at what the Stars have done- they kind of re-tooled on the fly, knowing they were stuck with Benn and Seguin. The Kings did the same, holding on to some of their aging stars.

Lots of teams in desirable locations can more easily retool on the fly. Tougher to do in Canada.

[Monahammer]

Kadri is the biggest problem contract on the team. Maybe colorado can be convinced to bring him back into the fold?

Kadri for Newhook as the base? Maybe slight add from us (2nd? MEP?) for contracts?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Kadri is the biggest problem contract on the team. Maybe colorado can be convinced to bring him back into the fold?

Kadri for Newhook as the base? Maybe slight add from us (2nd? MEP?) for contracts?

I don't see how the Flames get out of Kadri's contract without giving up multiple 1sts right now.

May as well see if he gets better results next season and re-evaluate if you can trade him then.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I have been kicking around a trade thought in my head the past couple of days. It seems like Horvat was a pretty bad fit but t at least a lot less impactful for the Islanders than he was for the Canucks. His massive deal kicks in for next season. Would Lou revisit acquiring Kadri if he could offload Horvat? Flames take on 2 years term and 1.5M more in cap hit but get a guy 4 years younger.

That would be a dick move by both franchises.

Flames fans better get used to Kadri. He will be a flame for at least 5/7 years of that contract. He’s not going anywhere.