Provincial NDP governments have a pretty good history of fair negotiations with unions. I don’t see why the federal NDP would be remarkably different in that regard.
Clearly not from Ontario and don't remember the good old "Rae Days"
I think Notley has been extremely fair in her tenure as you mentioned. Just that you can't brush the same comment across all provinces, the Ontario NDP still never recovered from those days.
Here I thought posters are saying provincial NDP should be trying to distance themselves from Singh and his NDP.
As pointed out, maybe they are closer than I thought.
I think Notley has been extremely fair in her tenure as you mentioned. Just that you can't brush the same comment across all provinces, the Ontario NDP still never recovered from those days.
Considering the Ontario NDP was basically wrecked by that scheme and it still impacts them today - I doubt any NDP is dying to repeat it.
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The negotiations that led to a controversial donation to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation were conducted with a Chinese cultural association with ties to the Chinese government, the former president of the foundation told members of Parliament on Friday.
Testifying before the House of Commons ethics committee, Pascale Fournier said she dug into past e-mails related to the 2016 donation that had been attributed to two Chinese businessmen — Bin Zhang and Niu Gensheng — after news reports earlier this year raised questions about whether the donation had been made at the behest of the Chinese government.
"What I did notice was that he was the chair of the board of that association based in China," Fournier said. "That association was in relationship with the [Chinese] government, he was the chair of that association and he was one of the donors."
Fournier was asked if the association was an extension of the Chinese government. "There was a very strong proximity," she said.
"I don't know if I would say extension but it was clearly under the guidance, I think, was the expression used on their website. Under the guidance of the government."
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Fournier pointed out that former president Morris Rosenberg told the National Post in December 2016 that the foundation didn't consider the donation as foreign money because it was made by a company incorporated in Canada.
"This was a declaration on behalf of the foundation, to say that it was not foreign money, that it was Canadian money," Fournier told MPs. "This was in the annual report as well. When in fact, the tax receipt itself mentions China.
"So, I think this is something that is misleading to Canadians."
I think Notley has been extremely fair in her tenure as you mentioned. Just that you can't brush the same comment across all provinces, the Ontario NDP still never recovered from those days.
Fair enough, definitely not basing my opinion on something that happened 30 years ago though lol.
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Here I thought posters are saying provincial NDP should be trying to distance themselves from Singh and his NDP.
As pointed out, maybe they are closer than I thought.
Haha that’s what you took from that? Man, you sure were desperate to turn this into some sort of jab against Singh and the NDP, huh? Guess you got there your own way. Suggesting parties that have a baked in value of workers’ right would probably value workers’ rights in union negotiations doesn’t really seem like a “gotchya!” but sure, go off. I bet you most of the NDP parties value public healthcare too. NoT sO dIfFeReNt aRe ThEy!?!?
Still don’t know what your actual opinion on the asks and methods of this specific strike is. Care to share? You keep posting about what others might think or how it might affect others, so why so shy about sharing what you think?
Her testimony today raises a huge amount of red flags. Her house was searched by "they" (unclear who they is) for 6.5Hrs following her resignation. A whole other slew of information as well.
This goes far far deeper is my feeling. Possibly far deeper then anyone imagined.
Haha that’s what you took from that? Man, you sure were desperate to turn this into some sort of jab against Singh and the NDP, huh? Guess you got there your own way. Suggesting parties that have a baked in value of workers’ right would probably value workers’ rights in union negotiations doesn’t really seem like a “gotchya!” but sure, go off. I bet you most of the NDP parties value public healthcare too. NoT sO dIfFeReNt aRe ThEy!?!?
Still don’t know what your actual opinion on the asks and methods of this specific strike is. Care to share? You keep posting about what others might think or how it might affect others, so why so shy about sharing what you think?
Nice use of capital letters. You are a very talented typer. The strike methods don’t bother me because they don’t affect me. The strike itself has not affected me either, so strike away if that’s what you need to do.
Nice use of capital letters. You are a very talented typer. The strike methods don’t bother me because they don’t affect me. The strike itself has not affected me either, so strike away if that’s what you need to do.
I'm bitter. I'll admit it.
I have no problems with worker's rights or collective bargaining but if there is a group of people on this planet who have no right to complain about their pay structure and working conditions its most Government workers and CRA? Right at the top.
But I am biased, because I deal with them all the time and most of them couldnt find their own ass with both hands and a map and I dont feel that warrants more money or whether they want to conduct that search from home.
But as I said...I am bitter. And biased. I acknowledge that.
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Nice use of capital letters. You are a very talented typer. The strike methods don’t bother me because they don’t affect me. The strike itself has not affected me either, so strike away if that’s what you need to do.
Thanks, what do you think of the union’s ask? What would you give them?
Thanks, what do you think of the union’s ask? What would you give them?
I haven’t looked into all the items that have been negotiated. Apparently there are many. So can’t say for sure.
From the outside looking in, I do think the work from home thing is interesting. I’m not opposed to wfh, however if there are security concerns with remote login, then it can’t happen.
Edit: what about you? What do you think the union should get?
If decade's of watching politics unfold has taught me anything, it's that extending the cpac strike is purposely meant to dissuade public interaction on the passing of c-11. As seen in this very thread.
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Managers are tracking employees that are on the picket line, and I beleive the intention is that pay will be clawed back later. The Phoenix pay system is...erm, fickle. And in combination with the fact that not all PSAC workers are picketing (i.e, those classified as essential), it's not as easy as flipping a switch.
I'm also really curious about the negotiations surrounding WFH. I am a federal employee, and our union is still in the negotiation process, so whatever the outcome is here, it will likely inform our process. I think there are really good benefits to the WFH model, but it has to make sense, and I'd like to see the union acknowledge this before it declares it a hill to die on. Some of the people striking are lab technicians, and aside from some quality assurance activities, their jobs are inherently incompatible with WFH. I'm sure there are many other positions that are in the same boat. It might be a bitter pill to swallow for some if the strike drags on over WFH.
If decade's of watching politics unfold has taught me anything, it's that extending the cpac strike is purposely meant to dissuade public interaction on the passing of c-11. As seen in this very thread.
I’m not a member of PSAC but I’m still gonna go out on a limb and say that this strike has absolutely nothing to do with bill C-11.
I'll bite on the Toronto Sun article as I have had someone bring this up to me in person. The article is misleading and lazy.
Yes, the people on strike were paid this week. The Government pays its employees in arrears one week later than most employers. When you start it takes longer to get your first pay check. There will be pay issued on May 10 and it should not be a full pay cheque. May 10 is three weeks after the strike started, not four weeks like the article states.
The pay is for work already completed. The employer can not refuse to pay for work done.
If the pay system works correctly. When I am back at work, there will be a delay in getting a full pay cheque because of how far in arrears we are paid. It is annoying.
I think Notley has been extremely fair in her tenure as you mentioned. Just that you can't brush the same comment across all provinces, the Ontario NDP still never recovered from those days.
The Ontario and Alberta NDP parties are essentially the same parties. Unlike the Liberal and Conservative parties, the provincial NDP parties are integrated with the federal NDP party (with the exception of the Quebec NDPs), so there is a sense of collectivism and common goals. The provincial and federal parties also have shared membership.
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