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Old 04-26-2023, 06:18 PM   #1861
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Guys are going up walk away from $5M because they don’t like the coach? Yeah, right.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:18 PM   #1862
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This news along with the silence from the franchise and Sutter himself makes me think there's plenty going on behind the scenes.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:21 PM   #1863
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Hard to imagine a player under contract holding out because of a coach. But whoa. European player makes sense.

Dreger is an agent’s dream. Reports exactly what they want. Timing of this is interesting given lack of news. Team is obviously undecided. Agents give him this grenade to drop in an information vacuum hoping to edge the decision their way.
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Depending on the player this could be great news.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:28 PM   #1865
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Guys are going up walk away from $5M because they don’t like the coach? Yeah, right.
Well if the Flames released him he’d likely get more on the open market. He’d pretty much just be demanding a trade.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:30 PM   #1866
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This news along with the silence from the franchise and Sutter himself makes me think there's plenty going on behind the scenes.
Yup.

Sutter not having a year end press conference is telling IMO.

We've learned now that the reason Treliving didn't have one that day was because he was already gone for the most part. But what was Sutter's reason?

At this point I wonder if the decision is made already and it's more about coming to a buyout of his contract that is agreed upon by both sides more than anything.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:43 PM   #1867
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Well if the Flames released him he’d likely get more on the open market. He’d pretty much just be demanding a trade.
Why would the Flames do that? Whether it’s Lindholm or any other player. He has a contract and if he chooses not to honour it, I suspect that would raise questions about his character.

I don’t doubt there’s issues but these are professionals, and adults, being paid a lot of money. Both players and coach.

This take by Dreger is stupid to the point of its legitimacy should be questioned. When/where did he say this? The tweet is a quote but that doesn’t mean he actually said.

Dreger: ‘Nakita Zadorov has let the Flames know he refuses to skate backwards anymore’.

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Old 04-26-2023, 06:46 PM   #1868
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Link from Robert Munnich's Twitter

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Old 04-26-2023, 06:53 PM   #1869
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This just gets worse and worse.

The Oilers win the Cup dusty Danny Smith wins premier our players boycott the team and we are left with a 1.2 bullion empty arena.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:57 PM   #1870
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This just gets worse and worse.

The Oilers win the Cup dusty Danny Smith wins premier our players boycott the team and we are left with a 1.2 bullion empty arena.
lol bilks the city but won't can a coach for 8 million bucks.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:57 PM   #1871
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I’ll give it a listen but saying there are players who don’t want to come back is different than won’t come back. Also, don’t want to come back once their deal is up or don’t want to come back next year?

Lindholm’s words at his end of year press conference was ‘I have one more year left and we will see what happens’ not ‘I’m not coming back’. Sounds like to me he intends to finish his contract, which I’m sure his agent and the NHLPA would advise.

Ask yourself this; how bad would your boss have to be for you to walk away from millions of dollars?
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:59 PM   #1872
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If I already had millions? I'd still rely on strength in numbers. But it's isn't necessarily an empty threat.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:00 PM   #1873
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"And there are lower level rumblings, and I'm not going to mention the players here, that there are some players who are willing to not come back even under contract if Darryl is still on the bench for the Calgary Flames."
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:05 PM   #1874
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Guys are going up walk away from $5M because they don’t like the coach? Yeah, right.
If it’s Lindholm, he’d get traded for sure. The Flames wouldn’t terminate that contract.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:09 PM   #1875
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Darren Dreger is such a Flames insider, everyone should believe everything he says. Back it up or shut it down, Dregs.

So sick of this "let's crap" on the Flames.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:12 PM   #1876
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I mean not that hard.

Lindholm has one year left, and will honor that year...however, he will probably quietly let management know that he is requesting a trade. This happens quite a bit. No one walks away from their contract - he'll just play out the string. If Calgary faciliatates the trade in season, great. If not he's a UFA and free to go wherever he wants.

If these interviews are correct, there's a lot of work to do...
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I mean not that hard.

Lindholm has one year left, and will honor that year...however, he will probably quietly let management know that he is requesting a trade. This happens quite a bit. No one walks away from their contract - he'll just play out the string. If Calgary faciliatates the trade in season, great. If not he's a UFA and free to go wherever he wants.

If these interviews are correct, there's a lot of work to do...
The only thing that would make sense is if it was someone with term left. The UFAs would just play out their contracts.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:33 PM   #1878
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If it’s Lindholm, he’d get traded for sure. The Flames wouldn’t terminate that contract.
Yes. That’s a much more believable scenario.

The premise of a person walking away from multiple millions of dollars because they don’t like their boss whom they would likely only have to tolerate for less than a year strikes me as a pretty dubious claim.

If this is true, then I’m wondering what kind of abuse Sutter is subjecting his players to.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:37 PM   #1879
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Ok but we know the lower level rumblings was a cryptic Eric Francis article in March, right?
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Old 04-26-2023, 08:06 PM   #1880
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"lower level rumblings" typically lead to verbal diarrhea. This is an example.
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