Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[GordonBlue]

From reading the comments on this site alone, some people love the UCP for throwing the money at the area as a "suck it!" to Edmonton and the rest of the province.

I think that's the attitude many in Calgary are going to take. Since Edmonton is NDP, we'll vote UCP so we get all the money.

Outside of lip service, no way the UCP under Smith is going to help out Edmonton in any way. Not one bit.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

From reading the comments on this site alone, some people love the UCP for throwing the money at the area as a "suck it!" to Edmonton and the rest of the province.

I think that's the attitude many in Calgary are going to take. Since Edmonton is NDP, we'll vote UCP so we get all the money.

Outside of lip service, no way the UCP under Smith is going to help out Edmonton in any way. Not one bit.

The best part of this whole thing for Edmonton is that a complete FU to Edmonton as a city and ignoring Sohi's calls for equal funding will only serve to fire Kaycee Madu and all Edmonton UCP candidates well into the sun come end of May.

Good bye, sweet prince of speeding ticket glory.

[Kickazzflames]

So is the 300 mil provincial funding for the infrastructure a part of the budget?

3.2 Bil for Edmonton and 2.9 Bil for Calgary.. or is it on top of it?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

The best part of this whole thing for Edmonton is that a complete FU to Edmonton as a city and ignoring Sohi's calls for equal funding will only serve to fire Kaycee Madu and all Edmonton UCP candidates well into the sun come end of May.

Good bye, sweet prince of speeding ticket glory.

Might also be enough to piss of Sherwood Park, which could flip NDP.

[Torture]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651238977993691140

No more complaining about property taxes (or to bring back a classic, "Spendshi") if you support the Arena. Deal?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by btimbit

We saw Calgarians get upset the last time a politician tried to carry water for csec. Will be interesting to see if that's the case again

Are the two Smiths related?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Torture

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651238977993691140

No more complaining about property taxes (or to bring back a classic, "Spendshi") if you support the Arena. Deal?

bUt tHe LiBraRy!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Are the two Smiths related?

I dunno, has anyone investigated Bill's indigenous ancestry?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Cappy

bUt tHe LiBraRy!

In fairness, it's only because the people bitching about the library can't read so it's "not for them".

[Muta]

Don't forget the $30-$100M suburban interchanges that are regularly built, of which most citizens won't regularly use (if at all)!

[Ozy_Flame]

Armchair economists rejoice!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651268499032117248

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Faust

Jeromy (Pathfinder) Farkas @JeromyYYC
We could've saved the original arena deal by putting in $30M in Dec 2021. Instead, Gondek & Smith negotiated a new deal -- now with no revenue stream back to the City -- costing #yyc taxpayers $250M and provincial taxpayers $330M more. Genuinely impressive. #yyccc #abpoli

https://twitter.com/jeromyyyc/status...789036034?s=21

I know that when I give a bully my lunch money with absolutely no resistance, it works out really well because for the rest of the school year he's just really nice and shares his snacks with me and never ever ever demands lunch money from me ever again.

[Fuzz]

I have no understanding how the UCP plans on paying for all these funding announcements beyond praying for high oil prices. Has anyone compiled a list of announcement/expenses since Smith showed up? It feels like it's been a lot.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Armchair economists rejoice!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651268499032117248

This is monumentally stupid. When oil revenues dry up, how do you propose to make up the shortfall without raising taxes? This is the job of MLAs, to make hard decisions that need to be made.

[Brendone]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I have no understanding how the UCP plans on paying for all these funding announcements beyond praying for high oil prices. Has anyone compiled a list of announcement/expenses since Smith showed up? It feels like it's been a lot.

I don’t think any party cares about spending anymore. Budgets balance themselves

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I have no understanding how the UCP plans on paying for all these funding announcements beyond praying for high oil prices. Has anyone compiled a list of announcement/expenses since Smith showed up? It feels like it's been a lot.

But you have to vote conservative, we can't afford NDP spending

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by #-3

But you have to vote conservative, we can't afford NDP spending

I can't even imagine the screaming that would be taking place had the NDP just done this deal.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Armchair economists rejoice!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651268499032117248

So this is typical Conservative financial management in a nutshell, laid out naked for all to see. Spend like crazy, show a huge deficit, go to the public this time looking to increase taxes, get told no, say the only solution is to cut costs and privatize everything.


And Conservative voters fall for it. Every. ####ing. Time.

[Ozy_Flame]

I think the real problem is crippling future administrations from making hard decisions by having to follow a referendum, assuming its binding.

It also spits in the face of elected representatives who are tasked with making these policy changes and effectively circumvents their work.

And knowing the feckless and greasy nature of conservative referendum questions in Alberta, you just know the referendum question will be "DO YOU SUPPORT HIGHER TAXES OR NOT?"

There's democracy. And then there's idiocracy.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Armchair economists rejoice!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1651268499032117248

Adding red tape!

Wait what?