04-24-2023, 05:20 PM
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#2301
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
The problem I have with it is that Edmonton needs PP help to get back into it, and they were given that.
Keep to the same standard over 60 min. It fluctuating according to the score is stupid.
And at the very least make them earn calls by drawing real penalties. These freebies have to end. It's playoffs.
In general, the refs should by default lean more towards not calling things than calling them. In other words, the infraction should force their hand. That's the way its traditionally been, prior to the last couple seasons.
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You mean prior to Pissy and McAvi and the Oiler loving media fanboys and girls crying like little bitches the last time the Oilers got their asses handed to them by the Jets in 4 straight games. Officiating standards in the playoffs have gone straight in the dumper since then.
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04-24-2023, 05:28 PM
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#2302
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Rejean31
You mean prior to Pissy and McAvi and the Oiler loving media fanboys and girls crying like little bitches the last time the Oilers got their asses handed to them by the Jets in 4 straight games. Officiating standards in the playoffs have gone straight in the dumper since then.
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Not only that, two years prior when it was blatant that there was a different standard of officiating in the playoffs against the Avs, Gaudreau was told to suck it up & not embarrass the officials.
Funny how that narrative changed.
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04-24-2023, 07:08 PM
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#2303
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#1 Goaltender
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I just don’t know how anybody, biased or not, could say the Fiala hit was a trip. Oilers fans saying it was a can opener. He had one hand on the stick, the left arm was knocking down Pissy. ‘His stick was clearly between his legs’, they say.
He had a wide stance and the stick wasn’t touching him. Not even close. The losers up north won on a bad call and won’t even admit it.
The Doughty play- meh, could get called or not. Though if that was mcpowerplay going down it’d have been a call. But Fiala call was absolute horse****
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04-24-2023, 07:12 PM
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#2304
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#1 Goaltender
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Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:
Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.
Are you listening woodchuck?
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04-24-2023, 07:15 PM
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#2305
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Location: Barthelona
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Woody: "if the best player in the world calls a high stick, then it's a high stick"
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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04-25-2023, 09:51 AM
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#2306
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Since the Oilers got exactly what they wanted from the league and the officials in game 4, hopefully we'll see things revert back to regular balanced playoff officiating for game 5. It's highly doubtful of course, but we can all hope.
I'd like to see the refs just put their whistles away for the most part and let the these teams battle it out on equal footing. Oilers still have nothing 5 on 5 and can only win if they get fed constant PPs, so if the Kings can find a way to stay out of the box, I'm confident this series will be over in 6 with LA winning it in front of their home fans on Saturday.
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04-25-2023, 10:08 AM
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#2307
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rd liner
Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:
Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.
Are you listening woodchuck?
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No wonder he couldn't last with the Oilers. Statements like that are just not a cultural fit with that organization.
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04-25-2023, 11:21 AM
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#2308
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
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04-25-2023, 11:25 AM
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#2309
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
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They had help from officials. Though it was not a great couple goals that Korpisalo let in at the end. I thought LA was still the better team.
Last edited by GioforPM; 04-25-2023 at 11:41 AM.
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04-25-2023, 11:27 AM
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#2310
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by 3rd liner
Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:
Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.
Are you listening woodchuck?
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Classy response, but notable he has never been coach of the Flames which carries exponentially more frustrating circumstances to be sure than the Los Angeles Kings or San Jose Sharks have encountered.
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04-25-2023, 11:33 AM
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#2311
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Woody: "if the best player in the world calls a high stick, then it's a high stick"
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Did he say that?!?!?
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04-25-2023, 11:53 AM
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#2312
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by rohara66
Did he say that?!?!?
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He did after game 3.
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04-25-2023, 11:55 AM
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#2313
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreal
Not only that, two years prior when it was blatant that there was a different standard of officiating in the playoffs against the Avs, Gaudreau was told to suck it up & not embarrass the officials.
Funny how that narrative changed.
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And now it's "if you want more calls, embarrass the officials!"
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04-25-2023, 11:57 AM
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#2314
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
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Maybe they make a similar phantom call in favour of LA at a key moment to atone for last game.
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 04-25-2023 at 12:04 PM.
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04-25-2023, 12:06 PM
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#2315
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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I hope people start realizing that the "refs need to call the rulebook more" crowd realize that it just means the refs decide more games. Let the boys play, call egregious penalties and stop all the nonsense.
McDavid and Schieffle both went to the league and asked them to call the rulebook more tightly. Garbage hockey results from that
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04-25-2023, 12:08 PM
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#2316
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Maybe they make a similar phantom call in favour of LA at a key moment to atone for last game.
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04-25-2023, 01:03 PM
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#2317
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I hope people start realizing that the "refs need to call the rulebook more" crowd realize that it just means the refs decide more games. Let the boys play, call egregious penalties and stop all the nonsense.
McDavid and Schieffle both went to the league and asked them to call the rulebook more tightly. Garbage hockey results from that
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They didn't though. Let McDavid off of a trip. Let the Leafs off of a blatant hold late in their game. Both just before important goals.
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04-25-2023, 01:06 PM
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#2318
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They didn't though. Let McDavid off of a trip. Let the Leafs off of a blatant hold late in their game. Both just before important goals.
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Agreed, but if they call more, there's just more powerplays to decide the game. The Oilers averaged over 1PPG per game. If you called every technical hook, hold, rub it in the boards after 1 second, pick play, etc, it would easily double. Is that what these people want?
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04-25-2023, 01:08 PM
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#2319
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Agreed, but if they call more, there's just more powerplays to decide the game. The Oilers averaged over 1PPG per game. If you called every technical hook, hold, rub it in the boards after 1 second, pick play, etc, it would easily double. Is that what these people want?
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I doubt it. But they do want consistency. And both of the plays I mentioned were important and altered the play. Hell, the phantom call Draisaitl drew took away a two on one.
There's got to be a better way to do this.
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04-25-2023, 01:20 PM
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#2320
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I doubt it. But they do want consistency. And both of the plays I mentioned were important and altered the play. Hell, the phantom call Draisaitl drew took away a two on one.
There's got to be a better way to do this.
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That call very likely could be the difference between 3-1 kings on the cusp and 2-2.
And it was a textbook clean play.
Refs must stick to the unmistakable penalties (hits from behind/high, delay of game etc) because that #### changes series.
And yes, that means that Draisaitl clipping the guy after the goal can probably fall under the category of let it go.
I'd much prefer games being decided where most of it is played at even strength, even if that means the borderline stuff is ignored. Point is no one wants to see games affected by calls on a non infraction play. Cause then it's on the stripes' human error. We want the players deciding this.
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