Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-24-2023, 05:20 PM   #2301
Rejean31
Franchise Player
 
Rejean31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent View Post
The problem I have with it is that Edmonton needs PP help to get back into it, and they were given that.

Keep to the same standard over 60 min. It fluctuating according to the score is stupid.

And at the very least make them earn calls by drawing real penalties. These freebies have to end. It's playoffs.

In general, the refs should by default lean more towards not calling things than calling them. In other words, the infraction should force their hand. That's the way its traditionally been, prior to the last couple seasons.
You mean prior to Pissy and McAvi and the Oiler loving media fanboys and girls crying like little bitches the last time the Oilers got their asses handed to them by the Jets in 4 straight games. Officiating standards in the playoffs have gone straight in the dumper since then.
__________________
Are the Oilers trying to set a record for most scumbags on the payroll??
Rejean31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2023, 05:28 PM   #2302
Boreal
First Line Centre
 
Boreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rejean31 View Post
You mean prior to Pissy and McAvi and the Oiler loving media fanboys and girls crying like little bitches the last time the Oilers got their asses handed to them by the Jets in 4 straight games. Officiating standards in the playoffs have gone straight in the dumper since then.
Not only that, two years prior when it was blatant that there was a different standard of officiating in the playoffs against the Avs, Gaudreau was told to suck it up & not embarrass the officials.

Funny how that narrative changed.
Boreal is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Boreal For This Useful Post:
Old 04-24-2023, 07:08 PM   #2303
3rd liner
#1 Goaltender
 
3rd liner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

I just don’t know how anybody, biased or not, could say the Fiala hit was a trip. Oilers fans saying it was a can opener. He had one hand on the stick, the left arm was knocking down Pissy. ‘His stick was clearly between his legs’, they say.
He had a wide stance and the stick wasn’t touching him. Not even close. The losers up north won on a bad call and won’t even admit it.


The Doughty play- meh, could get called or not. Though if that was mcpowerplay going down it’d have been a call. But Fiala call was absolute horse****
3rd liner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2023, 07:12 PM   #2304
3rd liner
#1 Goaltender
 
3rd liner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Exp:
Default

Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:

Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.

Are you listening woodchuck?
3rd liner is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to 3rd liner For This Useful Post:
Old 04-24-2023, 07:15 PM   #2305
Mass_nerder
Franchise Player
 
Mass_nerder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
Exp:
Default

Woody: "if the best player in the world calls a high stick, then it's a high stick"
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by snipetype View Post
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
Mass_nerder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 09:51 AM   #2306
direwolf
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Since the Oilers got exactly what they wanted from the league and the officials in game 4, hopefully we'll see things revert back to regular balanced playoff officiating for game 5. It's highly doubtful of course, but we can all hope.

I'd like to see the refs just put their whistles away for the most part and let the these teams battle it out on equal footing. Oilers still have nothing 5 on 5 and can only win if they get fed constant PPs, so if the Kings can find a way to stay out of the box, I'm confident this series will be over in 6 with LA winning it in front of their home fans on Saturday.
direwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 10:08 AM   #2307
JohnnyB
Franchise Player
 
JohnnyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rd liner View Post
Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:

Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.

Are you listening woodchuck?
No wonder he couldn't last with the Oilers. Statements like that are just not a cultural fit with that organization.
__________________

"If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?"
JohnnyB is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JohnnyB For This Useful Post:
Old 04-25-2023, 11:21 AM   #2308
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Erick Estrada For This Useful Post:
Old 04-25-2023, 11:25 AM   #2309
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
They had help from officials. Though it was not a great couple goals that Korpisalo let in at the end. I thought LA was still the better team.

Last edited by GioforPM; 04-25-2023 at 11:41 AM.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 11:27 AM   #2310
Mr.Coffee
damn onions
 
Mr.Coffee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rd liner View Post
Here is how a real coach with class handles bad calls:

Todd McLellan on the Fiala tripping call: “Look I can get up here and whine about officiating, but in all my years I’ve learned that calls go your way or they don’t go your way. It’s really a waste of energy. If they call a tripping penalty it’s a tripping penalty.

Are you listening woodchuck?
Classy response, but notable he has never been coach of the Flames which carries exponentially more frustrating circumstances to be sure than the Los Angeles Kings or San Jose Sharks have encountered.
Mr.Coffee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 11:33 AM   #2311
rohara66
First Line Centre
 
rohara66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder View Post
Woody: "if the best player in the world calls a high stick, then it's a high stick"

Did he say that?!?!?
rohara66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 11:53 AM   #2312
Inferno
Franchise Player
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rohara66 View Post
Did he say that?!?!?
He did after game 3.
Inferno is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 11:55 AM   #2313
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreal View Post
Not only that, two years prior when it was blatant that there was a different standard of officiating in the playoffs against the Avs, Gaudreau was told to suck it up & not embarrass the officials.

Funny how that narrative changed.
And now it's "if you want more calls, embarrass the officials!"
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 11:57 AM   #2314
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
I feel the Kings blew the series last game. They needed a 3-1 lead to have a chance to win the series. I feel the Oilers will win this now.
Maybe they make a similar phantom call in favour of LA at a key moment to atone for last game.

Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 04-25-2023 at 12:04 PM.
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 12:06 PM   #2315
Street Pharmacist
Franchise Player
 
Street Pharmacist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
Exp:
Default

I hope people start realizing that the "refs need to call the rulebook more" crowd realize that it just means the refs decide more games. Let the boys play, call egregious penalties and stop all the nonsense.

McDavid and Schieffle both went to the league and asked them to call the rulebook more tightly. Garbage hockey results from that
Street Pharmacist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 12:08 PM   #2316
undercoverbrother
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent View Post
Maybe they make a similar phantom call in favour of LA at a key moment to atone for last game.
You new here..........
__________________
Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993

Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
undercoverbrother is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to undercoverbrother For This Useful Post:
Old 04-25-2023, 01:03 PM   #2317
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist View Post
I hope people start realizing that the "refs need to call the rulebook more" crowd realize that it just means the refs decide more games. Let the boys play, call egregious penalties and stop all the nonsense.

McDavid and Schieffle both went to the league and asked them to call the rulebook more tightly. Garbage hockey results from that
They didn't though. Let McDavid off of a trip. Let the Leafs off of a blatant hold late in their game. Both just before important goals.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 01:06 PM   #2318
Street Pharmacist
Franchise Player
 
Street Pharmacist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
They didn't though. Let McDavid off of a trip. Let the Leafs off of a blatant hold late in their game. Both just before important goals.
Agreed, but if they call more, there's just more powerplays to decide the game. The Oilers averaged over 1PPG per game. If you called every technical hook, hold, rub it in the boards after 1 second, pick play, etc, it would easily double. Is that what these people want?
Street Pharmacist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 01:08 PM   #2319
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist View Post
Agreed, but if they call more, there's just more powerplays to decide the game. The Oilers averaged over 1PPG per game. If you called every technical hook, hold, rub it in the boards after 1 second, pick play, etc, it would easily double. Is that what these people want?
I doubt it. But they do want consistency. And both of the plays I mentioned were important and altered the play. Hell, the phantom call Draisaitl drew took away a two on one.

There's got to be a better way to do this.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2023, 01:20 PM   #2320
TrentCrimmIndependent
Franchise Player
 
TrentCrimmIndependent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
I doubt it. But they do want consistency. And both of the plays I mentioned were important and altered the play. Hell, the phantom call Draisaitl drew took away a two on one.

There's got to be a better way to do this.
That call very likely could be the difference between 3-1 kings on the cusp and 2-2.

And it was a textbook clean play.

Refs must stick to the unmistakable penalties (hits from behind/high, delay of game etc) because that #### changes series.

And yes, that means that Draisaitl clipping the guy after the goal can probably fall under the category of let it go.

I'd much prefer games being decided where most of it is played at even strength, even if that means the borderline stuff is ignored. Point is no one wants to see games affected by calls on a non infraction play. Cause then it's on the stripes' human error. We want the players deciding this.

Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 04-25-2023 at 01:25 PM.
TrentCrimmIndependent is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to TrentCrimmIndependent For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
2023 , kings , oilers , playoffs


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:24 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy