Flames' Pride Night slotted for March 28 vs. LA

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

That plan backfired. Instead, the vitriol and bloviating directed at Reimer and others simply looked like bullying. It likely entrenched many bystanders in their negative views, albeit silently. That is, unfortunately, not a good outcome for the LGBTQ+ community.

The goal should be to convince Reimer and others that there is a better way to look at the world. I argue for the use of liberal principles partly because it gives you the moral high-ground and partly because it is simply more effective at accomplishing the goal. When the rhetoric becomes about "consequences" and "condone" and "be intolerant to intolerance", then you have lost at both gaining the moral high ground and effectively convincing people of anything.

Getting angry and lashing out makes people feel good in a dopamine-hit kinda way, and that's why they use such ineffective tactics. But it's the opposite of an elevated and intellectual approach to advancing LGBTQ+ equality and inclusion.

Nah, it didn't look like bullying except to the fragile folks on the right. To the vast majority it looked like people pointing out a crappy attitude.

I'm sorry but I don't need to take an "elevated and intellectual approach" to bigotry.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Nah, it didn't look like bullying except to the fragile folks on the right. To the vast majority it looked like people pointing out a crappy attitude.

I'm sorry but I don't need to take an "elevated and intellectual approach" to bigotry.

Of course you don't need to.

That's entirely my point.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by bolevi

that plan backfired. Instead, the vitriol and bloviating directed at reimer and others simply looked like bullying. It likely entrenched many bystanders in their negative views, albeit silently. That is, unfortunately, not a good outcome for the lgbtq+ community.

The goal should be to convince reimer and others that there is a better way to look at the world. I argue for the use of liberal principles partly because it gives you the moral high-ground and partly because it is simply more effective at accomplishing the goal. When the rhetoric becomes about "consequences" and "condone" and "be intolerant to intolerance", then you have lost at both gaining the moral high ground and effectively convincing people of anything.

Getting angry and lashing out makes people feel good in a dopamine-hit kinda way, and that's why they use such ineffective tactics. But it's the opposite of an elevated and intellectual approach to advancing lgbtq+ equality and inclusion.

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[Roughneck]

It's over Reimer:

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Of course you don't need to.

That's entirely my point.

Nor does anyone. This isn't a debate over ideas. It's basic human decency.

[kukkudo]

Sorry to bump this but OJ rumour time, this was almost cancelled last minute.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Sorry to bump this but OJ rumour time, this was almost cancelled last minute.

But it wasn’t, so does that really matter? I’m sure they floated the idea out there with many other teams doing that.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Sorry to bump this but OJ rumour time, this was almost cancelled last minute.

Which would have been a shame, and I'm glad they did it.

[kipperiggy]

What finally landed Bo Levi in the sin bin?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

What finally landed Bo Levi in the sin bin?

Probably suggesting that Kylington has legal problems preventing him from coming to NA, with no actual source or proof of that.

Or just for being a general ass-hat.

[btimbit]

Wow, he really sure likes making up harmful rumours about players

[KelVarnsen]

I got my jersey. The logo is stunning. Will post shots later.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I got my jersey. The logo is stunning. Will post shots later.

Make sure the butler is wearing his best tuxedo when he's holding it

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Make sure the butler is wearing his best tuxedo when he's holding it

I had to let him go so I can afford the jersey.

[KelVarnsen]

Been busy. Here is a photo of the logo.

[butterfly]

The puck looks nicer than the jersey in my opinion. The color gradient is much smoother.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

That plan backfired. Instead, the vitriol and bloviating directed at Reimer and others simply looked like bullying. It likely entrenched many bystanders in their negative views, albeit silently. That is, unfortunately, not a good outcome for the LGBTQ+ community.

The goal should be to convince Reimer and others that there is a better way to look at the world. I argue for the use of liberal principles partly because it gives you the moral high-ground and partly because it is simply more effective at accomplishing the goal. When the rhetoric becomes about "consequences" and "condone" and "be intolerant to intolerance", then you have lost at both gaining the moral high ground and effectively convincing people of anything.

Getting angry and lashing out makes people feel good in a dopamine-hit kinda way, and that's why they use such ineffective tactics. But it's the opposite of an elevated and intellectual approach to advancing LGBTQ+ equality and inclusion.

Lol what

[jayswin]

Keep it simple, Cole436. Many people either dislike or are scared of the LBTQ+ community. Don't try to examine it beyond that.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Been busy. Here is a photo of the logo.

Spoiler!

Stolen!

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Nor does anyone. This isn't a debate over ideas. It's basic human decency.

People seem to get a pass on the decency bit if they are attacking a player that is simply refusing to put on a jersey.

The "human decency" aspect of the conversation should go both ways. Instead it becomes about slinging insults, and cavalierly using words like "racist", "bigot", "homophobe", etc.