[News] Flames and Treliving agree to part ways. Maloney promoted to PoHO and interim GM

[blankall]

I might be in the minority here, but I'd love to see the current core give it another go, with a major influx of youth. With Coronato, Duehr, Pelletier, Ruzicka, and possibly Zary and Phillips in the lineup, it'd be a totally different experience.

I, however, don't see how that happens with Sutter coaching. Maybe just have the GM straight up tell Sutter that's what he's working with, and not sign any vets. Lewis, Lucic, and Ritchie are all gone, which is a huge start to forcing Sutter's hand on playing the youth.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Dion

Maloney had a close working relationship with Brad, so I don't feel it was wrong to ask Don for some insights. I thought Don answered those questions and gave us some insight as to why Brad left.

Yeah, but in his rawness and closeness to Brad I'm sure Bean etc wishes he had phrased some of the initial stuff differently to spin it better

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Dion

Maloney had a close working relationship with Brad, so I don't feel it was wrong to ask Don for some insights. I thought Don answered those questions and gave us some insight as to why Brad left.

His close relationship to Brad is one of the many reasons why I wouldn't have put him in that position.

[madmike]

At least I live in Toronto and can watch the Leafs.

Say what you want about Dubas and co., but at least MLSE operates like an actual business is supposed to. They let the hockey people do hockey things and take a fairly hands-off approach.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think that presser made it pretty clear it wasn't mutual

Yeah, but only one guy could actually admit that. Acting like he's the smartest guy in the room made Bean look silly.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No, he’s not. They both were always leaving. Maybe he gets another two years of Tkachuk by rejigging the bridge deal into a 5 year instead of 3. It would have required more money by far. All you can say about Gaudreau is that be believed he’d extend and Gaudreau probably didn’t give him much reason to doubt it.

Dude, you have to quit kicking guys as soon as they leave.

I'm not kicking anyone...how is the GM not partially responsible for guys leaving?

He could have signed Tkachuk longer but the cap was tied up in Neal ect.


He obviously didnt read the Gaudreau situation well

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by blankall

I might be in the minority here, but I'd love to see the current core give it another go, with a major influx of youth. With Coronato, Duehr, Pelletier, Ruzicka, and possibly Zary and Phillips in the lineup, it'd be a totally different experience.

I, however, don't see how that happens with Sutter coaching. Maybe just have the GM straight up tell Sutter that's what he's working with, and not sign any vets. Lewis, Lucic, and Ritchie are all gone, which is a huge start to forcing Sutter's hand on playing the youth.

That is what they will do maybe outside the youth part. If they get league average goaltending they will be in the hunt for the playoffs. Trade no one and then lose them in the offseason.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

His close relationship to Brad is one of the many reasons why I wouldn't have put him in that position.

To be fair, I trust that Don wasn't uncomfortable with the questions, or he wouldn't have answered them.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by blankall

I might be in the minority here, but I'd love to see the current core give it another go, with a major influx of youth. With Coronato, Duehr, Pelletier, Ruzicka, and possibly Zary and Phillips in the lineup, it'd be a totally different experience.

I, however, don't see how that happens with Sutter coaching. Maybe just have the GM straight up tell Sutter that's what he's working with, and not sign any vets. Lewis, Lucic, and Ritchie are all gone, which is a huge start to forcing Sutter's hand on playing the youth.

I'm out of thanks, but I agree with you.

[CSharp]

Guess he's going to the Make Beliefs, which makes me hate that team even more!

[PeteMoss]

Bean could learn from Maloney from that press conference. Bean too worried about taking a hit so wouldn't say they wanted Treliving to stay, etc. Just take a couple of shots and no one cares about it. Dodging and being defensive just makes you look worse than saying what really happened.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I really wonder (once again) how Huberdeau is feeling. Obviously he had a ####ty year but Brad sold him on a plan, and now, who knows.

I wouldn't mind if they trade him to Ottawa, Detroit, Columbus, Phoenix, anywhere. Free up the cap space to sign someone else.

[nik-]

Treliving is not responsible for Gaudreau leaving, but he didn't see the writing on the wall. Fans and media saw it. It wasn't a sure thing he was leaving, but when he didn't sign the summer before, you need to lend it more credence and you need to move the asset. This franchise can't afford Gaudreau leaving for nothing. That part is 100% on him.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think Maloney did well in his circumstances, but as SuperMatt18 already pointed out, it was unbelievably unfair to ask Maloney of all people to speak to the fallout of Treliving leaving. I don't even think that was fair to Bean.

Both were set up to look poorly and I'm getting sick of it by this org.

It's Bean's job to run the hockey club no?

I actually get a little bit of the poor Maloney part, he was in a tough spot, but you also need someone who is in hockey ops (and they picked the person who's making the next big hockey decision for the Flames, which is the right call) to speak to future hockey questions.

I'm not sure why Edwards and the owners would pay Bean to be president, if they have to come in and do all the media avail when things aren't going well.

The narrative is hilarious. The people running the club, are there speaking to the club, and the fans want the owners. But the fans also feel the owners are too involved. This narrative that the owners are running everything, but then just throw their puppets up on stage when things go bad is completely unfounded, and to be honest a little ridiculous.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Aren't Bean and Maloney there?

He's left the president of the hockey team, and the new highest ranking person in Hockey Ops to deal it up...............seems right to me. This is all on ice stuff, I thought we didn't want them involved in on ice stuff.

Big gap between on-ice stuff and the hiring of a President of Hockey Ops.

Generally you wouldn't let the guy who just was hired on to be your president of hockey ops be the one answering the questions about why the guy he is replacing left.

It's just my take but the rumor was Edwards in town as part of these changes...and IMO he should have been there today.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by cannon7

We can't find a better GM than Treliving? Please. His track record with the Flames is just a longer carbon copy of his tenure with the Coyotes. Despite what some here think, he's going to have a hell of a time getting another GM gig. I foresee him taking another Assistant GM role when this becomes clear.

Guessing the above will be proven wrong with in 75 days

[Dion]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm not kicking anyone...how is the GM not partially responsible for guys leaving?

He could have signed Tkachuk longer but the cap was tied up in Neal ect.


He obviously didnt read the Gaudreau situation well

That is pure speculation on your part.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

His close relationship to Brad is one of the many reasons why I wouldn't have put him in that position.

It’s literally part of his job.

I’m sure Maloney didn’t ask to have his hand held by ownership. Do we want them stepping in and taking over from the people they hired, or not?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by madmike

At least I live in Toronto and can watch the Leafs.

Say what you want about Dubas and co., but at least MLSE operates like an actual business is supposed to. They let the hockey people do hockey things and take a fairly hands-off approach.

The benefit to being owned by a combo of giant corporations. There's not really anyone who can directly meddle and by time whatever message trickles down from a board meeting - its going to be more sensible than someone going off after a loss.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by alan21

Brad Treleaving, ammirite fellas?

The GM position has been uprooted!