[News] Flames and Treliving agree to part ways. Maloney promoted to PoHO and interim GM

[Igottago]

The hand wringing about this is hilarious. The Flames accomplished very little under Treliving and he was around for a decade. Why people wanted to hang on to the status quo is baffling. Let's see what a new architect can do.

[Jbo]

For those banging on the drum for change in every GT and PGT. It’s here. You may not like the change, but it has still arrived.

CP: “we want change”
Flames: “ok”
CP: “ not like that though”

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The hand wringing about this is hilarious. The Flames accomplished very little under Treliving and he was around for a decade. Why people wanted to hang on to the status quo is baffling. Let's see what a new architect can do.

I think most of it, myself included is due to the fact that it looks like Sutter won the struggle and will continue on. If that is not the case, many people would be alright with the move.

[nik-]

The funniest thing about that comment is "They will probably keep Sutter to make it look like this was their choice"

Like, make yourself look like absolute clowns so you can seem like you're the one calling the shots when the right choice was to dump them both. Cementing a problem in place to present the image of control. Great move.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The hand wringing about this is hilarious. The Flames accomplished very little under Treliving and he was around for a decade. Why people wanted to hang on to the status quo is baffling. Let's see what a new architect can do.

The problem most of us seem to have is that this isn't being perceived as a notable change. On the surface, this is maintaining the status quo - and most of us want real change.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by traptor

Echoing what alot of other posters are saying.


So many key people leaving or wanting out in such a short time frame. Something stinks and coincidentally it aligns with Sutter coming in.

Not saying it's all Sutter. Maybe it's how ownership has handled the Sutter situation.

Either way its feeling more and more like a sinking ship and those who can get off are. This organization desperately needs something positive to change the narrative.

I have actually been in a huge office turnover twice and some times people just want to do something else and all it takes is for one person to pull the pin. I stayed after the first one and it turned out great for me and me and my old boss both quit within two weeks of each other without knowing we were both looking elsewhere lol. A company/job just gets stale sometimes. I am way less on edge if a new GM can fire Sutter.

[Naitix]

With all the talk from you guys about Treliving choosing to leave the Flames and how it reflects poorly and that he does not believe in this team etc is bull####. He spent 9 years here, a very long time for a GM in hockey - I think majority of people would choose to leave your current job employment after such a long time, especially when you are basically guaranteed a job somewhere else and that job most likely will be better.

Let's not pretend here as Flames are some lucrative team to be the GM off, there are at least 16 other teams in the league that I would rather be the GM off than the Flames. It is a tough job, a tough market and Tre spent 9 years here working his ass off - that is insane. He had to basically be the GM and president of hockey ops, he will most likely get a raise and an easier work schedule at his next job. This is no different than if some of you would leave your current job for a better one, it is really not that difficult to understand and I would do the same thing if I was Tre.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Igottago

The hand wringing about this is hilarious. The Flames accomplished very little under Treliving and he was around for a decade. Why people wanted to hang on to the status quo is baffling. Let's see what a new architect can do.

I mean surely you can see the context as to what people are complaining about. Don't be silly.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Was thinking of starting a new thread - should we? About potential GM candidates?

List off the top of my head:

- Craig Conroy
- Stan Bowman
- Chiarelli
- Benning
- Hextall
- Dale Talon

Who do you want out of this above list? Hmm thinking we should def start a new thread...

Who am I missing? Any AGMs around the league who have been working in their role for many years, waiting for a chance? Though if they did that, Conroy would be mighty upset and I wouldn't blame him.

Is there anybody aside from the same recycled old white boys club?

[tvp2003]

The Brad Treliving autobiography when all is said and done is going to be fantastic.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Vedder

And it makes me more bitter too. He gave an impassioned defence of the city after Tkachuk left, and then he essentially does the same thing. Caveat being that meddling owners might have really been what tipped the scales.

End of the day I’m a big fan of him, and I think this is a dark day for the franchise. Going to be a tough few years I figure.

It is interesting that Treliving basically did the same to the organization as Gaudreau and Tkachuk did but at the same time we didn't need to be in the building to know that the coach and GM wasn't on the same page and it's starting to sound like Treliving ultimately got tired of working for Edwards. If you don't like your boss then it's kind of understandable as I'm sure Treliving has nothing against the city or most people in the building but had to make the best decision for himself and his family.

[Sec214]

No surprise here.

[Toonage]

Yeah this isn't Treliving saying he hates the city. This is Treliving saying he's had enough of the owner.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I can't speak for everyone but I'm upset that the GM lost the power struggle to the head coach that the players don't like. This is not a good scenario for the organization.

Why do people feel a need to make up reasons for why Treliving is gone?

The guy just isn't very good. He kept betting the house on bad hands and kept losing, and now he left us with a non-playoff team that somehow has 18 players signed for next season with only 1.25M in projected cap space that's simultaneously missing five draft picks in the next three seasons, and we have a prospect pool that's ranked outside of top 20.

Not a good team, not a young team, no room to maneuver. No past success, no promising future, overspending and underperforming. That's the team Treliving built, and you don't keep a GM that delivers these kinds of results.

The guy talked a good talk but couldn't deliver. If there's an issue with Sutter, it's probably because Sutter can also look at the basic facts of the team and note that yeah, this is kind of a mess.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Torture

I hear Brian Burke is available, can he come repair the organization's image....again?

Good post. This may be the most frustrating part of everything.

We just did this with Feaster 10 years ago. I can't believe we have to do it again.

Nevermind navigating out of the forest. We haven't even entered it yet.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Torture

Is there anybody aside from the same recycled old white boys club?

Spoiler!

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

With Maloney as PoHO, I would imagine a younger less experienced GM will be the target. Not sure if the more experienced ones would want to work under Maloney.

I wonder about Chuck Fletcher too, given his Dad's history with the Flames.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

I wonder about Chuck Fletcher too, given his Dad's history with the Flames.

Oh god no

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Sec214

No surprise here.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Sec214

No surprise here.

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