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Old 04-15-2023, 11:32 AM   #14301
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The team that absolutely jumps out as needing a longterm answer at centre, and are in an opening window, is Detroit. I'd also keep an eye on St. Louis and Philly. They are in various levels of needing a rebuild, but generally hate rebuilds (much like Calgary) and could be the league's wildcards this offseason, messing up trade scenarios league wide.

Detroit could use Backlund, but they do have Larkin signed long-term. What they really need imo is better blueliners. Seider and Walman are okay, but then you get Hagg and Chiarot and Maata and Oesterle. Edvinsson is the hope, but even if he's lights out next year, that's still only half a blueline.

What they could really use is a guy like Chris Tanev.
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Old 04-15-2023, 11:36 AM   #14302
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I think Detroit would target Hanifin.
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Old 04-15-2023, 11:40 AM   #14303
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I think Detroit would target Hanifin.
I’d predict Columbus when it comes to a Hanifin trade.

They wanted Chychrun. They’re rumoured to be open to including the LAK 1st rounder, and Johnny would probably be stoked.
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Ideally whoever is the Flames GM could pull a Bill Zito this offseason and trade Lindholm and Hanifin (great players with 1 year left) along with some futures to land an in prime, long term, franchise player like Tkachuk but preferably a center.

It will be interesting to see if/when the Flames move some of these pending UFA guys what type of return they will go after? If they pursue more of a hockey deal hopefully they are getting the younger pieces in return. Getting futures in return makes sense to help with their cap crunch and building a pipeline. Also cap space and futures typically is one of the best combos to have when disgruntled star players or struggling teams seek to make moves.

If they lose Bscklund and Lindholm another center needs to be acquired. They could look at Dube going back to that spot but would still need another guy.
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Old 04-15-2023, 11:45 AM   #14305
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I like Detroit for hanafin and Backlund as a good fit. I'd take this years first, something intersting and zadina. I also like the idea of a Bedard lindholm combo. You can grab a pretty good haul from somewhere like Chicago in that scenario.
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Old 04-15-2023, 11:50 AM   #14306
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Ideally whoever is the Flames GM could pull a Bill Zito this offseason and trade Lindholm and Hanifin (great players with 1 year left) along with some futures to land an in prime, long term, franchise player like Tkachuk but preferably a center.

It will be interesting to see if/when the Flames move some of these pending UFA guys what type of return they will go after? If they pursue more of a hockey deal hopefully they are getting the younger pieces in return. Getting futures in return makes sense to help with their cap crunch and building a pipeline. Also cap space and futures typically is one of the best combos to have when disgruntled star players or struggling teams seek to make moves.

If they lose Bscklund and Lindholm another center needs to be acquired. They could look at Dube going back to that spot but would still need another guy.
AZ gets Bedard. Figures they that with Hayton they need a great veteran 3C and a solid mid career Dman. So they can give up Keller.
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:41 PM   #14307
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You deal the players that don't want to be here or have no interest in re-signing ASAP. Recognize when it's time to move on and don't poison the pond hoping to land a big fish.
The Flames really should take a page out of Buffalo’s book of getting guys who actually want to be in Calgary. They completely changed their culture around because of it and will likely be a playoff team down the road
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:55 PM   #14308
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The Flames really should take a page out of Buffalo’s book of getting guys who actually want to be in Calgary. They completely changed their culture around because of it and will likely be a playoff team down the road
That's part and parcel with finding players who are in situations with other clubs that are being shoehorned into a lesser role and their talents not realized, and giving them a role in a new city to which they are allowed to play to their strengths.

Thompson and Tuch clearly would not have the same roles in Louis and Vegas.

That along with giving your draft picks a real shot at making an impact at the NHL level. Players are loyal to the team that drafted them, if they are allowed to work in a meritocracy.

I think that bringing in players that are only coming for the big paycheck, is a problem for a team that isn't considered as desirable a destination compared to the big American teams.

I hate UFA day every year for the Flames.
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The Flames may be an unenviable position in what may be perceived as having to dump two centers, but I think one of them had to go anyways. I didn't think Backlund was long for the team given his role, his salary, and his age, so I expected to see him dealt this summer. Him having a really good year may be a bit of a godsend and help the Flames find a suitor for his contract. I'm not expecting a huge return, but maybe they'll stumble on someone willing to move a reclamation project for the salary.

Lindholm is a bit of a different story. He's the guy I would have pushed to keep, but that seems unlikely now. Thanks to his two-way play and one year removed from a great season the Flames should be able to turn him into a couple of good pieces. I wouldn't be holding out hope for a 1st rounder and two good to high quality prospects, but maybe two of the three. We may still be able to come out of this whole and not that much worse off than we were this season, especially if we get some youth. The challenge then will be getting someone who play youth and not want to dig into the bargain bin for retreads.
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AZ gets Bedard. Figures they that with Hayton they need a great veteran 3C and a solid mid career Dman. So they can give up Keller.
Keller isn’t moving. Bedard or not they’ve got Cooley, Guenther, 2023 1st, and Hayton. They’re going to be stacked. I don’t see Keller moving short of a massive overpayment.
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Regardless of ups or downs - time to give rudzica a full season of legit top 9 icetime.
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I don’t see Keller moving, but I would love to get Lawson Crouse. 6’4”, moves well, tough, physical, has leadership qualities, and is coming off a 24 goal, 45 point season on a poor team.
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Old 04-15-2023, 01:55 PM   #14313
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Ideally whoever is the Flames GM could pull a Bill Zito this offseason and trade Lindholm and Hanifin (great players with 1 year left) along with some futures to land an in prime, long term, franchise player like Tkachuk but preferably a center.

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If they lose Bscklund and Lindholm another center needs to be acquired. They could look at Dube going back to that spot but would still need another guy.
All we need is a young star demanding to be traded to Calgary lol
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I don’t see Keller moving, but I would love to get Lawson Crouse. 6’4”, moves well, tough, physical, has leadership qualities, and is coming off a 24 goal, 45 point season on a poor team.
It would be like bringing back a young Lucic.
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Regardless of ups or downs - time to give rudzica a full season of legit top 9 icetime.
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Old 04-15-2023, 06:16 PM   #14316
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Keller isn’t moving. Bedard or not they’ve got Cooley, Guenther, 2023 1st, and Hayton. They’re going to be stacked. I don’t see Keller moving short of a massive overpayment.
That's kind of the point. You can only ice so many young players on the top 6. If Bedard and Hayton are your 1 and 2 Cs for the future, you may as well see what you can get for Keller.
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That's kind of the point. You can only ice so many young players on the top 6. If Bedard and Hayton are your 1 and 2 Cs for the future, you may as well see what you can get for Keller.
? Keller is a winger. He’s their best playmaker. Bedard or not he’s not moving.
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Old 04-15-2023, 07:06 PM   #14318
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? Keller is a winger. He’s their best playmaker. Bedard or not he’s not moving.
Yeah, I guess it makes less sense than Columbus.
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All we need is a young star demanding to be traded to Calgary lol
Cale Makar would be amazing
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Old 04-15-2023, 07:47 PM   #14320
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Regardless of ups or downs - time to give rudzica a full season of legit top 9 icetime.
I think if Sutter stays he will not play much unless nobody left. I think a couple of try outs steal a couple spots. Sutter doesn't like something from Ruzicka's play.
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