Shadow Banning Yoho

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Didn't we do a poll asking peoples age a few years ago?

We did a poll asking when people graduated from HS. That would give you an idea of the ages of members here.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=134739

[chemgear]

Lots of rich kids here, I recall the income survey here being pretty impressive.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Lots of rich kids here, I recall the income survey here being pretty impressive.

On your knees peasant and beg for your weekly allowance!

[blender]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Lots of rich kids here, I recall the income survey here being pretty impressive.

You have to be relatively rich to have enough time to waste here.

[PeteMoss]

It would be cooler if one of our anti-establishment posters like Yoho were leaking intelligence documents here like that guy in the US instead of just posting tweets from rando accounts.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Dion

We did a poll asking when people graduated from HS. That would give you an idea of the ages of members here.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=134739

I'm disappointed that didn't graduate high-school was an option in that poll.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I'm disappointed that didn't graduate high-school was an option in that poll.

I'm disappointed that "didn't graduate high-school" wasn't an option in that poll.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by timun

I'm disappointed that "didn't graduate high-school" wasn't an option in that poll.

As unbelievable and sad as it may be, both of my neighbor's boys up the street never got past Grade 10.

One has since moved to Kelowna and is working in the trades...and I think is in an apprenticeship program.

The other lives with his parents, working odd jobs in construction...and he has a baby due any day((

[blankall]

Originally Posted by redforever

As unbelievable and sad as it may be, both of my neighbor's boys up the street never got past Grade 10.

One has since moved to Kelowna and is working in the trades...and I think is in an apprenticeship program.

The other lives with his parents, working odd jobs in construction...and he has a baby due any day((

Personally I think more kids should be encouraged to focus on trades sooner. In many countries, including Germany, kids who are struggling with academics can take vocational programs. Instead we destroy the confidence of people by forcing them to struggle through remedial classes they will never use, or become "drop outs".

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by blankall

Personally I think more kids should be encouraged to focus on trades sooner. In many countries, including Germany, kids who are struggling with academics can take vocational programs. Instead we destroy the confidence of people by forcing them to struggle through remedial classes they will never use, or become "drop outs".

This is worse for women. Trying to get degrees, got represent in STEM! Feminists judge me by my degree, not my child-raising capabilities.

Girls should definitely be in trades more. I've heard of government programs funding this but the culture is still difficult for girls to get into.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-...-overview.html

https://www.scholarshipscanada.com/Discover/Article/1/6270/Funding-for-Women-in-Trades-$3,000-Apprenticeship-Incentive-Grant-for-Women

[redforever]

Originally Posted by blankall

Personally I think more kids should be encouraged to focus on trades sooner. In many countries, including Germany, kids who are struggling with academics can take vocational programs. Instead we destroy the confidence of people by forcing them to struggle through remedial classes they will never use, or become "drop outs".

Oh, I totally agree, but even going into the trades, I still think it is worthwhile to have a basic Grade 12 diploma. You don't have to do all the 10, 20, 30 series that set you up for university. You can do the other series and you will be just fine.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by redforever

Oh, I totally agree, but even going into the trades, I still think it is worthwhile to have a basic Grade 12 diploma. You don't have to do all the 10, 20, 30 series that set you up for university. You can do the other series and you will be just fine.

The point is what it takes to get a basic grade 12 diploma needs to change. It shouldn't be a one size fits all thing. I know we are seeing a bit of change in BC with some schools offering courses that count towards trade certification hours and apprenticeships.

Overall, I'd say our current system lends itself towards large amounts of people feeling lost for large parts of their young adulthood.

[Wormius]

This does exist here though. Maybe not in every high school, but there are trades classes and programs for students that are want to prepare for careers sans a university degrees.

I think it’s on parents a little bit to recognize in their kids what they might have an aptitude for, rather than by default pushing them to take classes intended to get into university.

[Slava]

There is another type of diploma (or something) now. I don’t know enough about it to explain it, but I know for my child’s grad this year that they were saying you could be on track for this diploma, or this other one. One was the “normal” matriculation and the other was more of a diploma for people who weren’t going further. I’m sure someone who knows can explain this better than me!

I think times have changed in the workforce. My father in law didn’t do anything after high school, had a great career and worked his way up in his company. I think the path for that kind of thing now is likely a tough road. Overall, things are more regulated now and you need “that piece of paper” for a lot of things. I know there’s always some billionaire who didn’t finish school and didn’t need it, but I wouldn’t want to bank on that being the case.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by blankall

Personally I think more kids should be encouraged to focus on trades sooner. In many countries, including Germany, kids who are struggling with academics can take vocational programs. Instead we destroy the confidence of people by forcing them to struggle through remedial classes they will never use, or become "drop outs".

Maybe this already happens to some degree, but the 'book-learning' should have an even stronger emphasis on real world applications like taxes, budgeting, how to calculate units at the grocery store, etc. Doing post-secondary can be a bit like training wheels on a lot of that stuff where you get eased into it, whereas others will be entering the workplace in one way or the other immediately.

Originally Posted by Wormius

This does exist here though. Maybe not in every high school, but there are trades classes and programs for students that are want to prepare for careers sans a university degrees.

I think it’s on parents a little bit to recognize in their kids what they might have an aptitude for, rather than by default pushing them to take classes intended to get into university.

I'll make a broad generalization here, but I'd venture that a lower proportion of parents [of students who struggle with regular curriculum] are as dialed in to help optimize the educational path. Which isn't to say bad parents, but I can just imagine more of a disconnect if the parents themselves didn't have a great educational experience. I think it's incumbent on the system to meet them more than halfway.

[WhiteTiger]

I'd like to see more emphasis on critical thinking.

The sheer amount of people I encounter (yes, I realize I have a slightly biased sample pool) who have absolutely no clue about what to do in a lot of situations because it's even just SLIGHTLY off their 'usual' is, as we say around CP...mind-bottling.

[Shazam]

I've had a few psychologists say this:

1/3 of the people you meet you will like.
1/3 of the people you meet you will be neutral towards.
1/3 of the people you meet you will never like.

It is unrealistic to expect yourself to get along with everybody, and for everybody to get along with you.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I like far more than 1/3 of the people I meet, and I'm not any kind of extrovert. Although in fairness I guess there's quite a bit of sample bias going on there.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I like far more than 1/3 of the people I meet, and I'm not any kind of extrovert. Although in fairness I guess there's quite a bit of sample bias going on there.

From your posting history you seem to be at the very least annoyed by a great deal of people here.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by blankall

Personally I think more kids should be encouraged to focus on trades sooner. In many countries, including Germany, kids who are struggling with academics can take vocational programs. Instead we destroy the confidence of people by forcing them to struggle through remedial classes they will never use, or become "drop outs".

Countries like Germany have a higher degree of respect for the trades. They don’t funnel kids “struggling” with academics into the trades, they recognize the strengths of the person and teach them accordingly. Some people are meant to move on to university, some are meant to move on to the trades, and others aren’t cut out for either.