Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Why is it terrible news for the ANDP? It sounds like a total gift - the absolute perfect way for Notley to demonstrate her independence from any federal party by absolutely pillorying them for even suggesting something so absurd. I have no idea if Smith has commented but if not it'd be worth being first.

If they continue down that path (I don’t expect them to) I suspect it would scare people on the fence who might vote NDP to vote ucp. If the NDP comes out against it hard and swift then then it would hurt less I agree.

I haven’t seen smith say anything. Just she plans to talk to other premiers about it.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1645839516932898832

Foundations aren't exempt from being in the middle of corruption & conflict. The Trudeau foundation accepted money from a Chinese billionaire and rightfully so, they are being questioned for it.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1646098872811544578

[CaptainCrunch]

Public Service workers vote overwhelmingly to strike.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1646098872811544578

That's not possible.

1 MARCH 2023


The Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation has learned in recent days through the media that there was a potential connection between the Chinese government and a 2016 pledge of $200,000 to be received by the Foundation.

As an independent, non-partisan charity, ethics and integrity are among our core values and we cannot keep any donation that may have been sponsored by a foreign government and would not knowingly do so.

In light of these recent allegations, the Foundation has refunded to the donor all amounts received with respect to the donation pledge.

Signature


Pascale Fournier
President and CEO


For information :
Communications@FondationTrudeau.ca

The president and CEO would not lie and make a false statement would she? Or sounds like the intention was to refund for political expedience and preservation, only to find that the initial cheque had critical issues and should never have been accepted and that the reveal of potential illegal activities would be far far worse? Hence the mass resignation to get away from this stink bomb as quickly as possible?


Also a friendly historical reminder that our dear friends at CBC reported back in Jan 2016 about Liberals removing accountability and audit of charity political activities, and phrased it as a good thing to undo Harper's evil regime going after poor charities that could have included the Trudeau Foundation. Those audits ended up causing the removable of charitable status to 5 charities out of a couple of dozen, but that's merely a footnote

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pol...ment-1.3412062

A few months later a chinese businessman would make a substantial donation, and donations to the Trudeau foundation (with no affiliation to Trudeau at all) would significantly increase.

Of course the person who accepted this 2016 cheque seems to have been Morris Rosenberg, the foundation CEO at the time, who coincidentally also just recently spearheaded the election foreign interference inquiry that found no wrongdoing or issues.

Nothing to see here folks, here is a [insert whataboutism] to divert attention.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Public Service workers vote overwhelmingly to strike.

well not quite.

They voted for a strike mandate, same as PSAC workers at the Canada Revenue Agency.
All they've done is make another tool available, but doesn't mean a strike is going to happen.

[Firebot]

https://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/24d...+share#cdnpoli

The article in question that got released today, for those wondering. But effectively 5 people who quit spoke to La Press on condition of anonymity and stated that the mess is far deeper than anyone currently on the board (and not present at the time of the donations) wanted to be a part of.

For those wondering, Trudeau's brother Alexandre still remains despite being asked to voluntarily resign for visibility concerns.

[Firebot]

Very angry Liberal apologists out in full force on Twitter and bashing reputable news organizations for 'killing' charities. I wonder what other charity he is talking about, We will never know.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1645892231599988736

[nik-]

I just shocked that there's corruption around Trudeau, it seems so out of character.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Very angry Liberal apologists out in full force on Twitter and bashing reputable news organizations for 'killing' charities.

I think this is where we call them "legacy media", now.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Very angry Liberal apologists out in full force on Twitter and bashing reputable news organizations for 'killing' charities. I wonder what other charity he is talking about, We will never know.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1645892231599988736

"Charities"

[Firebot]

Globe and Mail's reporting on the issue now as well, if you want an English versoin

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...au-foundation/

The Montreal newspaper reported that eight members of the foundation board, who were not directors at the time the donation was received in 2016, then demanded that an independent investigation be carried out. They asked those longer-serving members of the board to recuse themselves from any discussion of the matter because they were in a conflict of interest.

In her resignation letter to the board and the foundation’s members, obtained by The Globe, Ms. Fournier said she attempted to “translate your trust into accountable actions.”

“Sometimes, the end is not exactly what we had planned or designed,” she wrote. “It comes as a different version of reality. With humility, we must embrace this unpredictable turn.”

It sounds like Fournier was unfortune collateral damage caught in the corruption web of Laurentien elites and not told of just how deep the corruption truly was. At least this seems to be how the story leads.

Several asked to be recused, including people with famous last names did not of course. Hence the mass resignations.

[Matata]

Charities have become such perfect tools for laundering money and stealing taxpayer money that they are all now suspect. You can't even rely on "charity authenticators' because they've long ago figured out that lots of people used those authenticators to direct their charitable contributions.

I wonder how many of those big foreign aid packages end up gettin passed around from "charity" to "charity" while the executives at those charities whittle the funds into bare scraps before they end up helping anyone. We hear about these types of big funding packages all the time, but it's exceedingly rare to actually get details on how they are spent or the net impact, its always something like "$200M to fight hunger in some 3rd world nation" then you never hear a peep about it again. Trudeau tripled the national debt in just a few years handing out massive funding packages with little oversight, it's conceivable he's made himself a billionaire just from looting the taxpayer, he'd only have to personally recover ~0.1% of the debt he has incurred to make $1B.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Matata

Charities have become such perfect tools for laundering money and stealing taxpayer money that they are all now suspect. You can't even rely on "charity authenticators' because they've long ago figured out that lots of people used those authenticators to direct their charitable contributions.

I wonder how many of those big foreign aid packages end up gettin passed around from "charity" to "charity" while the executives at those charities whittle the funds into bare scraps before they end up helping anyone. We hear about these types of big funding packages all the time, but it's exceedingly rare to actually get details on how they are spent or the net impact, its always something like "$200M to fight hunger in some 3rd world nation" then you never hear a peep about it again. Trudeau tripled the national debt in just a few years handing out massive funding packages with little oversight, it's conceivable he's made himself a billionaire just from looting the taxpayer, he'd only have to personally recover ~0.1% of the debt he has incurred to make $1B.

[Mr.Coffee]

Yeah, charities are a huge problem in Canada and there needs to be a revision on checks and balances.

Justin Trudeau Net Worth;
2019 = $13MM
2023 = $85MM

https://www.narcity.com/justin-trude...he-was-elected
https://caknowledge.com/justin-trudeau-net-worth/

I'm sure it's all 100% legit on a salary of $400K.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah, charities are a huge problem in Canada and there needs to be a revision on checks and balances.

Justin Trudeau Net Worth;
2019 = $13MM
2023 = $85MM

https://www.narcity.com/justin-trude...he-was-elected
https://caknowledge.com/justin-trudeau-net-worth/

I'm sure it's all 100% legit on a salary of $400K.

You might want to check the table at the bottom of your second link...I have no idea how reliable these things are, but it seems your 2019 number is way off.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You might want to check the table at the bottom of your second link...I have no idea how reliable these things are, but it seems your 2019 number is way off.

Those links seem to insinuate that he owns the PM’s official residences.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah, charities are a huge problem in Canada and there needs to be a revision on checks and balances.

Justin Trudeau Net Worth;
2019 = $13MM
2023 = $85MM

https://www.narcity.com/justin-trude...he-was-elected
https://caknowledge.com/justin-trudeau-net-worth/

I'm sure it's all 100% legit on a salary of $400K.

You seriously think that second website is legit and knows the worth of allll those people?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Those links seem to insinuate that he owns the PM’s official residences.

And he can't even keep up with the upkeep.

typical Justin(e), amirite?

[Firebot]

Good going Mr Coffee, you just gave the apologists a reason to deviate and deflect. Noticed how they all pounced at the opportunity to correct you and completely avoid talking about the Trudeau foundation resignations?

Don't give the apologists an out so easily.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Good going Mr Coffee, you just gave the apologists a reason to deviate and deflect. Noticed how they all pounced at the opportunity to correct you and completely avoid talking about the Trudeau foundation resignations?

Don't give the apologists an out so easily.

You'd rather BS just be accepted? How is this deflection if he brought it up, as if it was some proof that Justin got rich somehow, but not sure how, and not sure how rich, so therefor there are wrong doings?