[PGT] Flames lose 3-2, playoff hopes extinguished

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

He disagreed with the post and got labelled an oilers fan. I’m not sure how restrained of a response I would have given if that happened to me.

I guess you don't know FlamesFan05 posting history. GioforPM isn't the first one call out FlamesFan05 a Oilers fan troll.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Huberdeau went from 115 to 55 points

Change number one is understanding and rectifying that

Not many players can hit 115, no matter how hard they try

Olli Jokinen had 91 in Florida too. In a lower scoring year.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Yamer

So the season is done. Smartest thing now is reward the young guys with some big-show time. So who, realistically, gets the nod next game?

Coronato, Ruzicka, Pelletier, and Zary should be locks. Scratch Lucic, Ritchie...and who else? Message to Mangiapane? Bigger message to Kadri? Business over feelings = Lewis? Give a rest to guys like Backlund & Coleman while acknowledging their positive seasons?

I'm not giving Wolf the start. Let's give this stud a start in a fresh situation/environment. Vladar in.

Isn't there roster and call up limits?

[GioforPM]

Lost in the shootout is the fact that Calgary should have ended it in OT. they had the vast majority of chances and, with Saros down and out, Rasmus couldn’t finish.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

He disagreed with the post and got labelled an oilers fan. I’m not sure how restrained of a response I would have given if that happened to me.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Dion

My hope is Wolf can step in and play enough games to take the workload off Marky. I didn't think Marky handled the number of games he was given this year well. He looked tired at times and it affected his game.

But it actually started really early in the year

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Olli Jokinen had 91 in Florida too. In a lower scoring year.

You know Huby has been over a point per game 4 years running

And was second in the league last year

Don’t dismiss his new environment as a factor

[Gemnoble]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would also trade a dman and sign Stetcher, hope Kylington is back need more upfront

Kylington being gone really hurt us. Did we ever figure out what the hell was going on with him?

I hope the guy is okay but that really put us over the barrel.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

But it actually started really early in the year

I don’t think Markstrom got physically tired. I do think he was shaken mentally - baby/POs/gripping the stick or whatever.

I do think he’s played with a lot more confidence since the baby came, win or lose, and save % notwithstanding.

Built if Wolf comes in and takes the net, that’s a good thing. Calgary will actually save money on goalies if that happens.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I guess you don't know FlamesFan05 posting history. GioforPM isn't the first one call out FlamesFan05 a Oilers fan troll.

Well if it is true that he’s an Oilers troll then I apologize for my take.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Isn't there roster and call up limits?

No roster limit after the TDL. There are callup limits but they can get around it by just saying guys are bumped and bruised (which they are)

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don’t think Markstrom got physically tired. I do think he was shaken mentally - baby/POs/gripping the stick or whatever.

I do think he’s played with a lot more confidence since the baby came, win or lose, and save % notwithstanding.

Built if Wolf comes in and takes the net, that’s a good thing. Calgary will actually save money on goalies if that happens.

I’m assuming that Wolf doesn’t mishandle that puck, and sadly that’s where we are at

[NewFan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A. Treliving’s contract is up and he probably will get better offers elsewhere. So the theory makes no sense.

B. Sutter’s “plan” backfired if he thought Huberdeau wouldn’t score. And any coach would have had Huberdeau in the first three shooters anyway. So the theory makes no sense.

C. Ritchie may be newly acquired but he isn’t a top paid guy. On your theory Weegar should have shot.

It looks like Treliving and Sutter don't work well together. I think one of them will leave the team. May be Treliving at this time.
Who will get more blame for this season? Sutter or Treliving?
- Even Treliving seems great recovery after loss the teams 2 star players but Kadri and Huberdeau signing look a mistake now.
- Last year's best coach Sutter couldn't make a playoffs with the underperforming highly paid players. And his team looks like mess most of the night. They play like it's the first preseason game. Can't connect, can't find their line mates and can't defend.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Atlantica

Sutter was late to his press conference. Francis indicated it was because he was talking to the team. A scribe asked Hubby what Sutter said. He said Sutter said nothing - he was in the crapper since the game ended and then ran out to the press conference.

Been crafting that post for months have ya?

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Huberdeau went from 115 to 55 points

Change number one is understanding and rectifying that

Not many players can hit 115, no matter how hard they try

I don’t disagree and my post wasn’t to crap on Huberdeau.

My biggest issue with this past offseason was signing Kadri.

The year before I didn’t love the Coleman signing but I didn’t hate it the way I hated the Kadri deal and I do actually like Coleman and what he brings.

However, IMO we should not be signing middle 6 players to 5-7 year deals for UFA market rates. Maybe you do one signing like that to push a top team over the top but in our case it’s not smart cap management.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don’t think Markstrom got physically tired. I do think he was shaken mentally - baby/POs/gripping the stick or whatever.

I do think he’s played with a lot more confidence since the baby came, win or lose, and save % notwithstanding.

Built if Wolf comes in and takes the net, that’s a good thing. Calgary will actually save money on goalies if that happens.

I've heard commentators say that when he's tired his rebound control is not as good and that he's slower in movement around the net.

[Ashasx]

I'll say it again, this team is absolutely unlikeable.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I don’t disagree and my post wasn’t to crap on Huberdeau.

My biggest issue with this past offseason was signing Kadri.

The year before I didn’t love the Coleman signing but I didn’t hate it the way I hated the Kadri deal and I do actually like Coleman and what he brings.

However, IMO we should not be signing middle 6 players to 5-7 year deals for UFA market rates. Maybe you do one signing like that to push a top team over the top but in our case it’s not smart cap management.

If we're going to spend big money on say Coleman lets get a player who can put pucks in the net, something we've always lacked.

[3rd liner]

Markstrom post-game interview really steamed about the goal off the ref's skate- questioning why the ref was behind the net etc. It's an unfortunate bounce and he has a right to be upset, but to complain about it post-game? I know somebody else who was out of position behind the net and cost his team a goal tonight...

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I don’t disagree and my post wasn’t to crap on Huberdeau.

My biggest issue with this past offseason was signing Kadri.

The year before I didn’t love the Coleman signing but I didn’t hate it the way I hated the Kadri deal and I do actually like Coleman and what he brings.

However, IMO we should not be signing middle 6 players to 5-7 year deals for UFA market rates. Maybe you do one signing like that to push a top team over the top but in our case it’s not smart cap management.

Got it

Kadri has been atrocious

Team worst +/-

He single-handedly turned over enough pucks leading directly to 1 goal losses to make the difference between playoffs and being out.

Horrible year by a skilled player too selfish and careless to succeed in Sutter land