[PGT] Flames lose 3-2, playoff hopes extinguished

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

I get it. You’re upset and shocked the Flames are a middling team yet again. Truly out of left field. You were optimistic until the very end, even when it defied logic. But you keep doing you lol.

I look forward to you telling us why we should be optimistic with all these large contracts heading into next season, followed by your wisdom of why things are gonna be different and we shan’t be a middling team again!

How about this:

Huberdeau looks to have found his game. Markstrom is very capable of a rebound year - he’s done it before and tonight was a fine performance overall. And Wolf is in the wings. Lucic is likely done with a replacement to come from the farm (contracts almost demand this). Mangiapane is still young and can also rebound. Kids like Duehr and Pelletier look good. The D corps is very solid.

Just average goaltending over the year would have put Calgary in the POs. Hell, two or three games with a little more luck do it. So with actual good goaltending, Huberdeau improved, Mangiapane having a better year, Calgary is where the pundits predicted this year.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Really? I heard different. But if they play him then does it burn a second year?

Nope.

He signed at age 20. He is on the roster and his salary counts against this years cap. (That is why the TML had to wait to sign Knies, they couldn't fit him under the cap.) He doesn't HAVE to play a single game.

[Goriders]

Well hopefully they give the young guys a game (Coronado, Pelletier, ruzicka, duehr).

Then send them down to help the wranglers if they can.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Is there any evidence that past shootout success, especially against one particular goaltender, is predictive of future shootout success? I'm highly skeptical.

In this game, while yes the Ritchie selection over the likes of Andersson, Lindholm, Dube, Mangiapane, Weegar is dubious at best- I don't like the Kadri selection either. Dude hasn't played with confidence since November and quit on the team. Should be told after the season he's not welcome back and we'll figure out what to do with his contract and career on our time and at our decision.

There was lots of chances they just missed on, quite frustrating OT and one of those 7 or 8 chances needed to be buried.

Worst season I can remember as a fan.

[Jethro Choicebro]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Agree. However, how did they not know this prior to drafting him?

Probably not that simple, but drafting NCAA studs to Calgary is like drafting Russians. Unnecessarily risky. Take the BPA from, well, pretty much any other place other than NCAA with the short circuit screwover ability or Russia and you'll be fine. But Calgary continues to divert its scouting resources to the wrong spots.

Fox went 66th overall.... Sure maybe every other GM knew he would only ever sign for NY, but seems likely at the time that a 3rd round pick would be a safe bet to sign for whoever drafts them.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Sutter doesn’t ever show self reflection or humility when his decisions flop. It’s infuriating.

I think it's rubbed off on the team too with their ref skate-blaming.

It's a bad look and they deserve to lose with attitudes like that.

Let's make this team likeable again, please.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

So Flames will win 8-0 vs SJ with a Kadri hat trick and Winnipeg will lose their last two game now to seal the worst season ever as a fan ?

We’ll, we could’ve given up a stud prospect and several more 1sts for Kadri, and then maybe he would punch a teammate during a tv timeout.

And say Mangiapane breaks his hand punching a wall for that same night.


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[Flamesfan05]

Someone needs to tell Sutter they played playoff hockey against a bunch of AHL guys. Nothing to brag about

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If not winning the cup is your standard it's pretty easy to be right I guess...I highly doubt you had the Flames winning the division in a landslide last season

And wrong again the Flames aren't picking 16th

I look forward to the scouting report on our middling pick for this middling franchise. There, that vetter? I get it, you don’t have a leg to stand on so you’ll pick apart the tiniest of details.

Having A CHANCE to win the cup would be a good standard, no? That’s where I’m at. Give me a chance to believe we can do it. When was the last time you felt that? And I hope you don’t say last season cuz if you thought JG and Chucky were getting us there, you weren’t paying attention.

[midniteowl]

Do we not have enough things to be mad about in this game that people have to drag Fox into the conversation?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Sutter has made a lot of moves this season that seem to have been done to show up Tre.
This felt like it was maybe a final FU to Treliving.

It's been pointed out that Ritchie has decent SO numbers and actually scored on Saros in o e this year. Probably not my pick but also not all that off the board. Nobody but Huberdeau actually has good numbers.

[Caged Great]

I just hope that on Thursday or Friday we have the news that Darryl has been relieved of his duties,

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Someone needs to tell Sutter they played playoff hockey against a bunch of AHL guys. Nothing to brag about

Don’t forget to add the last game vs the Nucks, as it’s not like their lineup was NHL quality calibre.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah honestly? He was unbelievable tonight. Best player on the ice actually.

I would say that Weager was the best player tonight.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Someone needs to tell Sutter they played playoff hockey against a bunch of AHL guys. Nothing to brag about

And look how good those AHL guys are?

The delta between the AHL / NHL is not that big, and every single Wrangler who came up performed well. This organization needs way more fluidity between pros and minors. Way more. Drives accountability and an actual meritocracy and you'll find your next star that way.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What an idiot. "Doesn't matter who shoots in the shootout". Please someone tell me this guy is not coming back. Someone? Anyone?

He’s not an idiot.

But it is worth the gm, whoever it it, taking the time to figure out what Sutter thinks he’s doing. This whole season has seemed like he’s trying to dine out on last season without realizing it’s a whole new ball game.

[Kasi]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Dude no one is happy we don't need your victory lap. What do you want anyway?

Probably wants a team to root for who has a legitimate chance of winning a cup I’d guess. Not this team we have.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

https://twitter.com/user/status/1645652224700305409

Weird thing..why is he talking about winning the next game? Is he that tone deaf to the gravity of what just happened?

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Do we not have enough things to be mad about in this game that people have to drag Fox into the conversation?

Oh I have dibs on bringing up Bennett! He would have looked great missing in the shootout!

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I just hope that on Thursday or Friday we have the news that Darryl has been relieved of his duties,