Dang we turned on players quickly for a coach whose shelf life is already short. So ship out guys you think don’t like the coach, get other guys, then change coaches hoping the guys you get are as good as the ones you shipped out? I like it.
Iron fisted management is the only way these petulant players will ever learn to respect your authority. Crush their wills and make them successful
Some guys are there to win and some are there to get paid.
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Not surprising. If Lindholm wants to walk then I hope they commit to selling all the UFAs
Lindholm at $4.85M for next year should net us an absolute haul. I've felt for a few years that it made much more sense to sell Backlund for a lesser return just based on age and projecting the roster forward another 3-5 years but I'm starting to see the logic in trading Lindholm especially if it's true that he's not committed to staying in Calgary. Also opens up a spot at 3C for a young guy to come in and develop once Kadri and Backlund slide up.
With the weak UFA class this summer is is possible we see another Draft Day trade for Lindholm? Would make the most sense at the 2023 draft considering there's ton's of Center's available in this draft who project as top-6 or top line guys.
Also, maybe he talks this way about every team but jeez, Seravalli gets pretty fired up talking about the Flames and what's gone wrong lol. Come on man, there's 7 games left and we're trying to squeak into the playoffs can you save the dramatics until locker clean-out day!? Got it, you'll be doing cartwheels the day Sutter walks away or is let go.
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My issue with this group (although understood, two of the top players from previous seasons left, and two or so new key players are here this year) is they've proven time and time again, that they don't perform well without a constant pressure coach driving the bus.
I get it, they find it grinding..... probably very valid. But this core has never shown they can self drive. Probably not fair to go back this far, but Hartley, Peters and Sutter have gotten the most out of this group over the years (understood it's never been enough), so what do you if you are the GM. They burn out with high pressure coaches, but they falter without one.........
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Again Seravalli says kind of nothing new, just a bunch of "there are HUGE problems that I wont tell you about".
Just a question, where does the Lindholm wanting to walk come from?
Nothing definitive out there that he does. I am just saying if he does want to walk then the top centres are Kadri and Backlund. Not much point in continuing to try and compete with that. Zary would have to be a major surprise or something
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Well seeing how all season Sutter has constantly said the team lacks “high end talent” and at the deadline he said he wouldn’t make any moves unless they help the team long term rather than short term. I don’t think Darryl himself would be fully against the idea of a rebuild
I hope the Flames do everything they can to get Lindholm inked long term. He plays every facet of the game. Right shot centre man. Those things don’t grow on trees.
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I adore Lindholm. Hard working, great shot, defensively minded, but has a tonne of skill. But yeah, I see him telling management on garbage bag day that he's done with this team and demands a trade.
The next offseason is going to be pure chaos, and not in a good way.
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My issue with this group (although understood, two of the top players from previous seasons left, and two or so new key players are here this year) is they've proven time and time again, that they don't perform well without a constant pressure coach driving the bus.
I get it, they find it grinding..... probably very valid. But this core has never shown they can self drive. Probably not fair to go back this far, but Hartley, Peters and Sutter have gotten the most out of this group over the years (understood it's never been enough), so what do you if you are the GM. They burn out with high pressure coaches, but they falter without one.........
My issue with this group (although understood, two of the top players from previous seasons left, and two or so new key players are here this year) is they've proven time and time again, that they don't perform well without a constant pressure coach driving the bus.
I get it, they find it grinding..... probably very valid. But this core has never shown they can self drive. Probably not fair to go back this far, but Hartley, Peters and Sutter have gotten the most out of this group over the years (understood it's never been enough), so what do you if you are the GM. They burn out with high pressure coaches, but they falter without one.........
What core?
The only players here from the 18-19 season are Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin.
I guess Dube, Andersson, Mangiapane, and Kylington all played some games too but were rookies.
So really there is no such thing as "This Core" having success with Peters and Hartley.
3 regulars played for Peters in 18-19.
1 Regular played for Hartley in 14-15.
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The only players here from the 18-19 season are Backlund, Lindholm, and Hanifin.
I guess Dube, Andersson, Mangiapane, and Kylington all played some games too but were rookies.
So really there is no such thing as "This Core" having success with Peters and Hartley.
3 regulars played for Peters in 18-19.
1 Regular played for Hartley in 14-15.
Totally fair comment and makes sense. Maybe this group deserves a chance to show otherwise? My only comment would be, in my opinion, Sutter has proven he's better at his job, than any of the players have in regards to theirs. His track record speaks for itself.
But on the flip side, switching coaches is a much more feasible change to make if things aren't working.
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I hope the Flames do everything they can to get Lindholm inked long term. He plays every facet of the game. Right shot centre man. Those things don’t grow on trees.
He's a great player but he's going to be 29 years old and looking to cash in. Flames just can't afford another 30-ish+ player at the start of a long term expensive contract when the two they have aren't living up to it already.
You’re not going to know what to do as GM until you conduct the post-season interviews with all players and for this year in particular I would not do it immediately after the season ends. I’d tell all players that it’s delayed by a few days and to really think through what they want to express fully and honestly, and then assess from there.
You’re not going to know what to do as GM until you conduct the post-season interviews with all players and for this year in particular I would not do it immediately after the season ends. I’d tell all players that it’s delayed by a few days and to really think through what they want to express fully and honestly, and then assess from there.
I can't imagine the Flames owners will cut Sutter loose. I think Tre walks and then either Sutter becomes GM or they hire someone they like
What ever happened to Schwindt? Isn't he NHL ready bottom 6 for next year?
He seems pretty OK. Playing on a good line and chipping in. Over shadowed by some of the other guys on the Wranglers. I think they have about four NHL ready guys, I'm not even including Rooney, LOL.
Flames can't afford to lose Lindholm IMO. If they are looking to dump a center it should be Backlund. Older player coming off a great season (for him) and unlikely to see a sustained level of play at that level. Backlund is a third line center and can be replaced internally, something that cannot be said about Lindholm. Lindholm is extremely important for this team going forward. With him, we might be able to retool on the fly with the right coach, without him, we're definitely going rebuild because we can't replace that position in the lineup.
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Flames can't afford to lose Lindholm IMO. If they are looking to dump a center it should be Backlund. Older player coming off a great season (for him) and unlikely to see a sustained level of play at that level. Backlund is a third line center and can be replaced internally, something that cannot be said about Lindholm. Lindholm is extremely important for this team going forward. With him, we might be able to retool on the fly with the right coach, without him, we're definitely going rebuild because we can't replace that position in the lineup.
I agree with this. Only way you trade Lindholm is if he doesn't want to stay and if we do we might as well rebuild. I'm ok with moving him if we rebuild but I also see the Flames trying to compete after moving him.
I think the Flames should make room for Zary, but no way will this team be able to compete with Backlund, Kadri and Zary as your top 3 centers.
Lindholm is the one player we have that can't be easily replaced. He leaves they better rip it apart and trade him for picks and prospects not roster players.
Flames can't afford to lose Lindholm IMO. If they are looking to dump a center it should be Backlund. Older player coming off a great season (for him) and unlikely to see a sustained level of play at that level. Backlund is a third line center and can be replaced internally, something that cannot be said about Lindholm. Lindholm is extremely important for this team going forward. With him, we might be able to retool on the fly with the right coach, without him, we're definitely going rebuild because we can't replace that position in the lineup.
Yes, but realistically the rebuild is the way to go... dont think it will happen under this stubborn ownership but no doubt its the way to go... can get a lot for Lindholm to accelerate the rebuild.
