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Old 03-24-2023, 12:30 PM   #441
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The idea of a loser point is false though.

For most of NHL history a team received 1 point for being tied after regulation.

If anything it's the opposite. The teams poor OT record is preventing them from accumulating enough "bonus" points to be in the playoffs.

Winnipeg is 10-3 in OT/SO.

Nashville is 10-8 in OT/SO.

Flames are 6-15 in OT/SO.

If anything their records are a bit inflated by the OT/SO wins (more so Winnipeg).

9 teams have played 20 OT/SO games or mo - so it's not like it's just the Flames playing lots of OT games. Issue is the Flames have been terrible in OT.
I feel like the league should change it to Regulation tie (RT) instead of overtime loss (OTL). There’d probably be a lot less complaining about a loser point. Granted it’s not hard to understand. The rules of the game literally change after 60 minutes in the regular season. It would be silly to get rid of the point earned through regulation.
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Old 03-24-2023, 12:35 PM   #442
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The real problem is it should be a 3-2-1 points system.
this!

and not just because of the Flames, it's just the right thing to do.
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Old 03-24-2023, 12:43 PM   #443
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Just win next 5 straight games. Sharks, Kings, Ducks, Canucks, Blackhawks.
Then it will be interesting. 89 points.
Last 4 games.
1 against Jets and 1 against Preds.
Then really playoff starts for the Flames.
4-0 continue
3-1 may continue
2-2 out
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Just win next 5 straight games. Sharks, Kings, Ducks, Canucks, Blackhawks.
Then it will be interesting. 89 points.
Last 4 games.
1 against Jets and 1 against Preds.
Then really playoff starts for the Flames.
4-0 continue
3-1 may continue
2-2 out

Thanks NewFan, after last night game, I was mad and sad. This post of yours lifted my spirit a bit, so thank you so much.
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Old 03-24-2023, 06:24 PM   #445
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ehhh nvm
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Old 03-24-2023, 09:14 PM   #446
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I meant more historically you got a point for games that ended tied after the 5v5 play finished.

From 83- 99 if you went to overtime and lost you didn't get the point but those games were also played 5v5 and something like 10% of games actually were finished in OT.

Really the "loser point" isn't a thing IMO. It would be more ridiculous if they went to 2 points for a win and 1 points for a loss for games that end in 3v3 or a SO.

The real problem is it should be a 3-2-1 points system.
What would the standings in the pacific look like with a 3-2-1
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Old 03-24-2023, 09:31 PM   #447
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What would the standings in the pacific look like with a 3-2-1
Couldn't find Pacific but here is the league from last week
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Stayin alive!!!
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Old 03-25-2023, 04:43 PM   #450
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Absolutely neeed to string 3+ here
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Old 03-25-2023, 04:49 PM   #451
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What would the standings in the pacific look like with a 3-2-1
As if you didn’t read Stouffer’s tweet yesterday…lol.

Stop trying so hard to make your pretenders look like actual contenders.

They won’t be changing the league point system in our lifetime.
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Old 03-25-2023, 05:14 PM   #452
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Oh man... Flames with 12 points in their last ten but Winnipeg with only ten points... This is like watching a pair of tortoises racing to the finish.
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Old 03-25-2023, 08:51 PM   #453
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Oh man... Flames with 12 points in their last ten but Winnipeg with only ten points... This is like watching a pair of tortoises racing to the finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Go6...annel=ianLewis

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Old 03-25-2023, 09:55 PM   #454
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Just for fun lets assume the Flames beat Winnipeg in regulation in their head to head.

We could look at this scenario:

Winnipeg 7 games remaining:
3-3-1

Opponents @Sharks (W), Red Wings (W), Devils (L), Preds (OTL), Sharks (W), @Wild (L), @Colorado (L)

Flames 7 games remaining
4-1-2 or 5-2-0

Opponents Kings (L), @Canucks (OTL), Ducks (W), Blackhawks (W), @Canucks (OTL), Preds (W), Sharks (W)

Flames final points: 93
Jets final points: 92


Kinda irrelevant since I think Nashville getting is in more grim than the Flames:
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Old 03-25-2023, 10:03 PM   #455
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7-0 not including the Jets isn’t totally that unbelievable. The King are the only tough team, but we could see a flip of the last result if we come out angry for revenge. Canucks are playing well but chance of wins is still high in my opinion.
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Old 03-25-2023, 10:07 PM   #456
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In theory, the Flames can win all the remaining games except maybe 1

But that’s in theory, the real Flames probably lose half in OT
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Looking at the 3 teams still in the running for the WC2 spot and their schedules I think Nashville is in tough. They have a bunch of injuries too. Even though they have games at hand on the Flames when they are against Boston, Toronto, Dallas, Vegas, Carolina ect. It doesn’t mean much.

If Winnipeg keeps free falling they probably have a tougher last 8 games than the Flames.

It’s probably going to come down to whether we can beat the Jets in Winnipeg and whether Nashville can do the same thing.

Looking at the schedule I think the Flames will get to 91 or 93 points. I think if the two games mentioned above go positively for us winnipeg gets to 91.

Basically all of the games between Nashville, Winnipeg and us have to go the right way. Then we have a shot. Beating LA would be gravy. The Flames can’t crap the bed in any others either.

We’ll see soon enough.

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Just for fun lets assume the Flames beat Winnipeg in regulation in their head to head.

We could look at this scenario:

Winnipeg 7 games remaining:
3-3-1

Opponents @Sharks (W), Red Wings (W), Devils (L), Preds (OTL), Sharks (W), @Wild (L), @Colorado (L)

Flames 7 games remaining
4-1-2 or 5-2-0

Opponents Kings (L), @Canucks (OTL), Ducks (W), Blackhawks (W), @Canucks (OTL), Preds (W), Sharks (W)

Flames final points: 93
Jets final points: 92
Losing to the Canucks in OT twice?
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:28 PM   #459
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Losing to the Canucks in OT twice?
10-2-0 in their last 12. Going to be tough games.
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10-2-0 in their last 12. Going to be tough games.

May be their coach will slap them upside their collective heads and scream "Bedard!!! Remember?"
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