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Old 03-24-2023, 06:37 AM   #221
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.

Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.

Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.



Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.



Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.

Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.

Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
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Because he pointed out the nuance in what Reimer was saying? Agree or disagree, this was the point Reimer was trying to make.
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.

Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.

Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.

Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.

Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
Back to r/conspiracy you go bud. Shoo
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Because he pointed out the nuance in what Reimer was saying? Agree or disagree, this was the point Reimer was trying to make.
And what point are the jerseys trying to make?
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Those of you with Athletic subscriptions should probably read LeBrun's article on these nights and why it matters.

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I wonder what some of these players who refuse to wear the pride jerseys based on their beliefs would do if they ever got traded to New Jersey
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Those of you with Athletic subscriptions should probably read LeBrun's article on these nights and why it matters.
Why? I mean I probably share most, maybe even all of LeBrun's opinions about the subject matter, but leaving that aside, why in God's name should I care at all what he thinks? What are his qualifications to talk about anything related to... any of this?

Sports journalists are barely journalists; they certainly aren't public intellectuals and shouldn't try to pretend they are.
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Fingers crossed that no Flames are gonna have a problem with this.
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Personally, I'm fine with the Florida approach of not forcing players to wear the jerseys in warm-ups but encouraging everyone to participate. If a player doesn't want to wear the jersey for one of these events, be it pride night, black history night, indigenous culture night, or whatever other nights the organization celebrates, then maybe I don't want to cheer for them anymore. I wouldn't want to cheer for somebody while under the false impression that they care about something important to me even though they really stand against it. Also, if it's a choice to wear it or not, I know the players who did put it on did so because they wanted to, and that would make me a bigger fan of theirs to know they also care about and support something important to me.
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It's funny. I just don't like when media like Lebrun or Tara Sloan whom I see as experts in a narrow area like hockey news give opinion. I just want the news.

But when I hear Burke, or a player like Giordano talk about inclusiveness, I stop to listen. I want more of those folks talking to drown out the Staal's and Reimers.
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The root of all the "corporate LGBTQ+" business is Blackrocks ESG rating system, which is basically their first draft of a social credit system. As it stands, the big US financiers are limited to their influence being monetary, being able to claim status as a moral authority opens up many more avenues for them to assert dominance and control.

Theyve found an issue thats divisive, but the majority of people are clearly going to end up on the pro side, which reinforces the ESG rating system as valid in the minds of the public. Doesnt seem like much now, but its unreasonably naive to think these systems are being put in place for the benefit of anyone but the board members at these financial insitutions and their long-term ambitions.

Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
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Long story short, if you take your moral ques from big corporations, youre going to end up ####ed in the head. Bullying people into complying with corporate moral authoritism is peak "clapping seal" behavior.
Yeah, imagine taking your moral ques from the storybook of a 2000 year old corporate entity that condones things like slavery and child marriage, but condemns two people with the same private parts being together.

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Why? I mean I probably share most, maybe even all of LeBrun's opinions about the subject matter, but leaving that aside, why in God's name should I care at all what he thinks? What are his qualifications to talk about anything related to... any of this?

Sports journalists are barely journalists; they certainly aren't public intellectuals and shouldn't try to pretend they are.
Umm, because he's previously helped LGBTQ players to share their stories in a respectful and humanizing way, as well as sharing some other stories in a way that others probably wouldn't.

Edit: https://theathletic.com/2178746/2020...ent-comes-out/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ady-gay-player
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcas...=1000529387500

Obviously the community and players trust him with their personal stories, so yeah, he's got a well-informed opinion that you should listen to.
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