03-19-2023, 01:01 PM
|
#261
|
|
#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Can't his personal religious beliefs be fluid just like his gender identity? I say yes. How about you?
|
Beliefs can be fluid, sure.
If you’re somebody who calls the Bible their highest authority, then you’re kind of stuck. Pretty antithetical positions.
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:06 PM
|
#262
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
That makes it look even worse, and it's exactly the hypocrisy some people have been calling out. If he's just picking and choosing which parts of his faith to follow, then it's pretty telling that 'gays shouldn't be treated as equals' is one part that he's going to throw his support behind
|
So you're saying people who are gender fluid are hypocrites?
You do know that people can convert their religion? Or even disagree on aspects of scripture with their church, right?
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:08 PM
|
#263
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
You must be new to this religion thing.
|
I'm well familiar with hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. It played a major role in renouncing my Catholicism.
__________________
"It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
-Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:10 PM
|
#264
|
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
Personally, I gotta hand it to Riemer for sticking to his beliefs knowing he was going to face a lot of criticism and scrutiny
|
You really don't.
__________________
"It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm."
-Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:10 PM
|
#265
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
So you're saying people who are gender fluid are hypocrites?
You do know that people can convert their religion? Or even disagree on aspects of scripture with their church, right?
|
Ya then it is not a religious belief. It is just personal bigotry.
This is his church https://www.abc27.com/national/menno...inclusion/amp/
Quote:
|
Among the changes, pastors will be allowed to perform same-sex marriages, and the denomination has committed to forming an LGBT constituency group.
|
Reimer says “#### that ####, my religion does not accept this LGBTQ2 ####”. His own religion shows that it is not a religious belief he has.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:10 PM
|
#266
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck
Beliefs can be fluid, sure.
If you’re somebody who calls the Bible their highest authority, then you’re kind of stuck. Pretty antithetical positions.
|
Someone should tell all those sects then!
And which edition of the Bible are we talking about? King James? Or do we go back to original translations? Just to be clear.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:11 PM
|
#267
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
The NHL should ban him for life………
For not wearing a warm up jersey.
Maybe prison?
|
He’s being arrested Tuesday.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to MoneyGuy For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:12 PM
|
#268
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
You do know that people can convert their religion? Or even disagree on aspects of scripture with their church, right?
|
Which is exactly the point. He's not making this stand because his religion told him too and he's powerless to make his own decision. He did this because it's what he believes, and he's just using his faith as something to hide behind
Last edited by btimbit; 03-19-2023 at 01:14 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to btimbit For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:15 PM
|
#269
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Which is exactly the point. He's not making this stand because his religion told him too and he's powerless to make his own decision. He did this because it's what he beliefs, and he's just using his faith as something to hide behind
|
If you can just have individual beliefs that somehow become religion I have to make some serious changes to my 2022 Tax Return.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:15 PM
|
#270
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Ya then it is not a religious belief. It is just personal bigotry.
This is his church https://www.abc27.com/national/menno...inclusion/amp/
Reimer says “#### that ####, my religion does not accept this LGBTQ2 ####”. His own religion shows that it is not a religious belief he has. |
This is my church: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com
Next you'll be telling me that isn't preordained...
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to cannon7 For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:17 PM
|
#271
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
If you can just have individual beliefs that somehow become religion I have to make some serious changes to my 2022 Tax Return.
|
Joseph Smith would like a word.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:19 PM
|
#272
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Joseph Smith would like a word.
|
Sure, when 10 million people start following Reimer I will concede he has created a new religion. Right now he is just a bigot and society has traditionally not deemed any random bigot as starting a new religion.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:21 PM
|
#273
|
Participant  |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
The NHL should ban him for life………
For not wearing a warm up jersey.
Maybe prison?
|
Fun that these guys value liberty and freedom of speech so much that they categorize speech critical of someone’s belief as being equivalent to imprisoning them.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:21 PM
|
#274
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Which is exactly the point. He's not making this stand because his religion told him too and he's powerless to make his own decision. He did this because it's what he believes, and he's just using his faith as something to hide behind
|
Maybe I missed it, where did Reimer say he was powerless?
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:22 PM
|
#275
|
|
Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
You really don't.
|
You know what they say about idle hands...
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:24 PM
|
#276
|
|
First Line Centre
|
It doesn't matter whether his position is religious or not. He was asked to conform or be considered an Inclusivity Heretic. As far as I know, he was never interested in discussing his beliefs one way or the other prior.
The problem is the jersey wearing is no longer a show of support - it's now a test of compliance and conformity.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to BoLevi For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:29 PM
|
#277
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoLevi
It doesn't matter whether his position is religious or not. He was asked to conform or be considered an Inclusivity Heretic. As far as I know, he was never interested in discussing his beliefs one way or the other prior.
The problem is the jersey wearing is no longer a show of support - it's now a test of compliance and conformity.
|
Well this is progress at least, you seem to have dropped this religious ruse.
Your complaint is that individuals should be allowed to discriminate against whatever groups they deem individually they dislike. And they should be allowed to demonstrate their discrimination against these groups by refusing to wear a hockey jersey for 15 minutes.
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:30 PM
|
#278
|
|
Lifetime Suspension
|
No its a test of are you a decent human being and James said no I am not and used his religious beliefs to hide behind the fact he's a piece of trash.
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Paulie Walnuts For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:31 PM
|
#279
|
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Fun that these guys value liberty and freedom of speech so much that they categorize speech critical of someone’s belief as being equivalent to imprisoning them.
|
That's how it works for these wackjobs. His freedom of speech matters when it comes to being intolerant, but your freedom of speech calling it out, now that's the real issue here
|
|
|
|
|
03-19-2023, 01:31 PM
|
#280
|
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Would you be saying the same thing if a player refused to wear a Black history month jersey, because he disagreed with their "lifestyle choices"?
|
No, and I think that’s a pretty disingenuous question for pretty obvious reasons. And if not, just think about it for like a minute.
__________________
No, no…I’m not sloppy, or lazy. This is a sign of the boredom.
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:12 AM.
|
|
