Carson Briere, (Flyer's GM son) pushes disabled woman's wheelchair down stairs at bar

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Those who don't see the wrong in this grown adult's actions or dismiss the behaviour because his dad had him young, or being drunk at a venue somehow grants you a hall pass to smash up someone's means of being functional definitely deserve a spot on a special WoS, titled "the dumbass bin"

Not many things are that black and white in terms of right or wrong, but chucking a wheelchair isn't one that should require any internal debate

And being on the lower end of the criminal activity scale doesn't equate to not a big deal, or a non-story

Evidently these people haven't spent time with walking aid equipment, and that absence of empathy is pretty ####ing alarming

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Torture

Life must have been tough growing up because he had a rich hockey player dad is a new take...

Just imagine how much better off he would have been with a normal middle class upbringing, or even a poor upbringing..?

I think it would be reasonable to say that kids of professional athletes probably don't get a lot of face to face time with that parent, and therefore may be worse off (socially, rather than financially) than their middle class/poor peers.
Anecdotal, but I went to the same school as Fleury's son from his first marriage, and despite having a rich hockey Dad, his life seemed pretty tough.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'd say it's a story.

It'd not like kids smashing up a shopping cart, like used to be common delinquent behaviour

That's someone's means of getting around the world. And if she was just in the bathroom, I imagine that was pretty devastating to come out and realize someone had just thrown your wheelchair down a staircase

If a 24 year old broke your mother or grandmother's cane or stroller while she was taking a seat, would you brush it off as not a big deal?

The attitudes in here are something special.

I'm interested to know what kind of household you grew up in.

I think maybe the personal shots at people who aren't outraged is a little over the top.

[schteve_d]

What a dbag!

He's very lucky someone didn't come walking around that corner at the bottom of the stairs and take a wheelchair in the lips.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I think maybe the personal shots at people who aren't outraged is a little over the top.

Not necessarily a personal shot, I'd say it's a good question. I'm interested in knowing what kind of environment shaped the individuals that chalk things like this up to "boys will be boys" or downplay the inherent wrong-ness of the action.

It can offer insight. Which is actually better than outright labeling you a donkey.

If I really wanted to take a personal shot, I'd do something like vandalize your disabled relative's wheelchair.

[MRCboicgy]

I didn't realize that he was kicked off of ASU's team...to get kicked out of Arizona St. for anything is definitely an accomplishment in and of itself.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Not necessarily a personal shot, I'd say it's a good question. I'm interested in knowing what kind of environment shaped the individuals that chalk things like this up to "boys will be boys" or downplay the inherent wrong-ness of the action.

It can offer insight. Which is actually better than outright labeling you a donkey.

If I really wanted to take a personal shot, I'd do something like vandalize your disabled relative's wheelchair.

I'm just saying when we have someone here sincerely comparing this act to physically breaking someone's legs (for which you'd be arrested and very likely go to jail for years for getting caught doing) that we've maybe lost the plot a little bit.

Is it a wrong and dumb thing to do? Of course. Does anyone talk about it / does it make any kind of news anywhere if it is not the son of a famous hockey person? No, it does not.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I'm just saying when we have someone here sincerely comparing this act to physically breaking someone's legs (for which you'd be arrested and very likely go to jail for years for getting caught doing) that we've maybe lost the plot a little bit.

Is it a wrong and dumb thing to do? Of course. Does anyone talk about it / does it make any kind of news anywhere if it is not the son of a famous hockey person? No, it does not.

OK, what's the plot? I would like to know if an ableist sees this as a type of "assault" on a person or simply property damage. Perhaps this type of action should be met with jail time, is that a fair discussion? Could it be a hate crime?

[blankall]

Awful thing to do. You could easily break the wheelchair.

On a side note, do they really let 24 year olds play in the NCAA? Seems like he's robbing some 18 year old kid of the chance to play.

[IamNotKenKing]

It has been escalated to a police investigation, and the expected apologies (for being caught) have followed:

In a statement to DailyMail.com via the Flyers, Carson Briere said: 'I am deeply sorry for my behavior on Saturday. There is no excuse for my actions, and I will do whatever I can to make up for this serious lack of judgment.'

Father Daniel offered similarly apologetic words in a statement of his own.

'I was shocked to see Carson's actions in the video that was shared on social media yesterday,' he said in a statement. 'They are inexcusable and run completely counter to our family's values on treating people with respect. Carson is very sorry and accepts full responsibility for his behavior.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...HEELCHAIR.html

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I think it would be reasonable to say that kids of professional athletes probably don't get a lot of face to face time with that parent, and therefore may be worse off (socially, rather than financially) than their middle class/poor peers.
Anecdotal, but I went to the same school as Fleury's son from his first marriage, and despite having a rich hockey Dad, his life seemed pretty tough.

OK, Fleury is probably a bad example considering the mental health issues.....but anyways, it's just as likely that a poor families' kids might not have as much face time with parents because they're out of the house working 2 jobs just to make ends meet and they can't afford to have a parent stay home and not work unlike a hockey parent....so in that case they're worse off socially and financially.

I'm sure we can all point to anecdotes of rich kid children that had issues or were jerks, but on the whole, having rich millionaire parents is going to be a net positive because it opens the door to so many different opportunities and that just might be the most lukewarm take in the history of the internet.

Oh look, it's backed up by evidence too:
Why Rich Parents Raise Smarter Children
Why do wealthy parents have wealthy children
Study: To succeed in America, it's better to be born rich than smart

[PuckSlap]

I don't care, it's funny

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[Savvy27]

I'm surprised that so many people seem confident that this isn't criminal behaviour... Because it very clearly is (criminal mischief). There is discretion of course in whether a person is charged or whether those charges are prosecuted, but for anyone confused, intentionally damaging a person's property is illegal, not just frowned upon and open for civil liability.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

I don't care, it's funny

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Wow, you are dumb.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

So best case scenario he’s destroying bar property and still denying a disabled person from the use of the wheelchair?

Yeah, still very immature and stupid. All I'm saying is specifically targeting a disabled person and destroying their wheelchair (which he may have been doing) and wrecking a random wheelchair are two different things, and the former is a far worse offense than the later.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Yeah, still very immature and stupid. All I'm saying is specifically targeting a disabled person and destroying their wheelchair (which he may have been doing) and wrecking a random wheelchair are two different things, and the former is a far worse offense than the later.

To be dumb enough to think 'this is the bar's wheelchair just sitting here' and not that it's a disabled person's is a special kind of dumb and pretty much impossible to think.

How many bars have you been to that have random wheelchairs just sitting in the corner in case a disabled person comes in without their mobility device?

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Wow, you are dumb.

Nope, I have an amazing vocal range.

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[Hack&Lube]

From the video he looks like a stupid spoiled rich college kid who saw a random wheelchair in a bar, him and his friends goofed around sitting in it, and decided to perform a stunt of vandalism. In his mind (empty as it is), it was like finding a random bar stool and pushing it down the stairs.

He was probably too stupid to have the thought cross his mind that the wheelchair might have an occupant/owner who needed it. Maybe he thought it was there for the bar to provide in case someone needed one like a booster seat for kids.

Nonetheless, who goes into a bar and pushes furniture down the stairs unless its already 1AM and they are piss drunk?

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...HEELCHAIR.html

Terrible apologies from both. Even more hilarious is that they are coming from the daily f'ing mail.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by chedder

To be dumb enough to think 'this is the bar's wheelchair just sitting here' and not that it's a disabled person's is a special kind of dumb and pretty much impossible to think.

How many bars have you been to that have random wheelchairs just sitting in the corner in case a disabled person comes in without their mobility device?

And wasn't the story that it belonged to a disabled woman?

Aka, not a bar supplied chair that was just being stored there (although that actually would be very smart given that someone getting blackout drunk is a relatively common occurrence, just not keeping it at the top of a long staircase)