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Old 03-03-2023, 11:18 AM   #61
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yeah if only the Flames had assets to go after Tkachuk
The point is every year young players you would think would not be available become available. He's a star young player that did not have a NTC. The point is late 1sts aren't stars but packaged together often could get you one in a trade.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:19 AM   #62
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Not to push the “make a trade for the sake of it” idea, but I can’t see it looking good on Treliving given the season we’re having to go through the entire thing without making one single trade.

It’ll look even uglier if he decides to leave. Sitting on your hands as you burn the last year of your contract before you manage another team would be an ugly, ugly look. Hope it doesn’t turn out that way.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:19 AM   #63
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It's unlikely this team makes the playoffs but, if they do, they'll be on an epic heater. So there's that.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:20 AM   #64
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Not to push the “make a trade for the sake of it” idea, but I can’t see it looking good on Treliving given the season we’re having to go through the entire thing without making one single trade.

It’ll look even uglier if he decides to leave. Sitting on your hands as you burn the last year of your contract before you manage another team would be an ugly, ugly look. Hope it doesn’t turn out that way.
Are his hands tied somewhat because he doesn't have a deal beyond this year, though?
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:20 AM   #65
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The point is every year young players you would think would not be available become available. He's a star young player that did not have a NTC. The point is late 1sts aren't stars but packaged together often could get you one in a trade.
Tkachuk has as good as an NTC. He had a guaranteed $9M QO and a year to UFA status.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:21 AM   #66
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I'm still holding out hope that Carolina and Colorado are looking at some of our players with this season + one more on their contracts. They seem like teams that should be going for it but still have their '23 1st round picks.

...sigh.
Hopefully one or both of them gets really desperate as the clock ticks down and matches whatever price we have set.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:21 AM   #67
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Eichel
Tkachuk
Chychrun

In the last year or so these are 3 young star players who asked to be moved.
Buffalo
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Arizona

Quite the group we find ourselves in.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:22 AM   #68
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Not to push the “make a trade for the sake of it” idea, but I can’t see it looking good on Treliving given the season we’re having to go through the entire thing without making one single trade.

It’ll look even uglier if he decides to leave. Sitting on your hands as you burn the last year of your contract before you manage another team would be an ugly, ugly look. Hope it doesn’t turn out that way.
is it possible he and the team know he is moving on, and so this is kind of expected?
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:23 AM   #69
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Are his hands tied somewhat because he doesn't have a deal beyond this year, though?
Yeah, I guess that could be the other side of it. Don’t do anything long term or tear anything down because we want to give the next guy an NHL roster to work with.

If you basically knew you were out of a job though, and ownership knew, I don’t know why they’d wait and burn a whole year instead of just making the change.
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is it possible he and the team know he is moving on, and so this is kind of expected?
They’d just let him go then. Murray Edwards and Co don’t operate like this…
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The point is every year young players you would think would not be available become available. He's a star young player that did not have a NTC. The point is late 1sts aren't stars but packaged together often could get you one in a trade.
With one year left on his deal and would only extend with like 5 teams

not a good example at all. Also the Flames could have traded Tkachuk for Eichel but he wouldn't sign there either. Flames had the assets for Chychrun, if they wanted to give up a 2023 first...likely wouldn't have gone over well.
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The point is every year young players you would think would not be available become available. He's a star young player that did not have a NTC. The point is late 1sts aren't stars but packaged together often could get you one in a trade.
Late 1st can be stars too.

The funniest thing is, as much as I am unimpressed by most aspects of Flames management, I would wager we've got top five or so amateur scouting, at least in North America.

They just operate on a handicap of not playing enough young players, not having draft picks, and not having open, obvious roster spots that would entice key college prospects playing in New England Ivy League schools to sign with the expectation of a legitimate opportunity.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:25 AM   #73
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I expect something along the lines of sending Zadorov to a contender for a 3rd.

And being the 3rd team in a trade, take on some retention salary for a 4th.


Which I guess would both be wins in the long run.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:26 AM   #74
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They’d just let him go then. Murray Edwards and Co don’t operate like this…
They’ve got a couple hours to show they operate at all. As the French say it has been le crickets regarding any Flames moves
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:26 AM   #75
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If I could make an online bet on Flames acquiring Joel Edmundson, I’d make it. Feels like they the kind of deal we make given OK’s potential absence next year it seems plausible for what this management team might chase. Without saying whether I think it’s a good idea, Joel and his $3.5MM cap hit traded for the 2025 Fifth rounder is my prediction.
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:27 AM   #76
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I’m expecting nothing. Is the deadline passed now?
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Old 03-03-2023, 11:28 AM   #77
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Sign them or trade them before the season for players that will help soon.
But arguable they help soon as much as aonyone you get. No one is trading an up and comer for them.
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1.5 hours to go
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