03-03-2023, 11:01 AM
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Ooooor, sell what you can, get some assets, and trade the assets for long term pieces this summer when teams can’t afford them or need to move on from them, a la Hamilton or Chychrun or Bjorkstrand or Eichel. Yeah you’re probably not going to get a superstar but you can turn a guy who’s going to be gone in the next summer for a guy who might stick around a while. It’s simple asset management.
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03-03-2023, 11:01 AM
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#42
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
It's kind of weird - I'm not sure how posters can want the flames to trade a core piece and then retool for next season. Trading Lindholm or Backlund will not make the flames better either this season or next. It's not a realistic option.
Three seasons out, when futures might help us, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on a hard decline of post apex.
The realistic options are tear it down or stay the course for another season. There's really no in between
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Then make the playoffs and watch them walk?
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03-03-2023, 11:02 AM
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#43
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If anyone caught the after burner post game show Boomer and Pinder did yesterday. Boomer was adamant they are not selling and are probably standing pat or actually add to try to help this group because only 5 points out or so.
Would be a baffling decision but that kind of tracks with the sentiment from insiders and few rumors around.
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03-03-2023, 11:02 AM
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#44
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Originally Posted by memphusk
Then make the playoffs and watch them walk?
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my preference is to re-sign them for 8 years at which point they will never live up to their AAVs
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03-03-2023, 11:03 AM
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#45
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
It's kind of weird - I'm not sure how posters can want the flames to trade a core piece and then retool for next season. Trading Lindholm or Backlund will not make the flames better either this season or next. It's not a realistic option.
Three seasons out, when futures might help us, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on a hard decline of post apex.
The realistic options are tear it down or stay the course for another season. There's really no in between
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The only right thing to do is rebuild. We're not winning anything without true elite talent. The Flames have none of that. Otherwise we'll just continue to be in the mushy middle like we have been for 30+ years.
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03-03-2023, 11:03 AM
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#46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
It's kind of weird - I'm not sure how posters can want the flames to trade a core piece and then retool for next season. Trading Lindholm or Backlund will not make the flames better either this season or next. It's not a realistic option.
Three seasons out, when futures might help us, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on a hard decline of post apex.
The realistic options are tear it down or stay the course for another season. There's really no in between
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With Kadri and Huderdeau weighing down the Flames cap, they will need young cost controlled players. It takes time for these to make it to a roster. This is not a good team, it will not be a competitive team next year, it's time to prepare for the next phase.
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03-03-2023, 11:03 AM
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#47
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Originally Posted by bluejays
I’m working so haven’t watched the deadline coverage on tv, but with so few trades don’t they must be micro analyzing everything to the 100th degree. Must make for some terrible viewing to see Sam Consintino’s grin and over enthusiasm for 7 hours straight.
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I don't know what SN does because I can't stand watching their coverage but TSN doesn't really spending a lot of time on analysis when the action is light and instead have a lot of goofy/stupid filler to kill time.
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03-03-2023, 11:04 AM
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#48
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Join Date: May 2016
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two hours to go and no smoke. I think the Flames do nothing...
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03-03-2023, 11:04 AM
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#49
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Originally Posted by memphusk
Then make the playoffs and watch them walk?
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Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
I wouldn’t have traded the sky is falling discussion for peeing in the pool though. That was a bold move.
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03-03-2023, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
Ooooor, sell what you can, get some assets, and trade the assets for long term pieces this summer when teams can’t afford them or need to move on from them, a la Hamilton or Chychrun or Bjorkstrand or Eichel. Yeah you’re probably not going to get a superstar but you can turn a guy who’s going to be gone in the next summer for a guy who might stick around a while. It’s simple asset management.
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Look at the Eichel trade and ask if we got additional assets for Toffoli and Backlund/Tanev and then pooled them all together for a guy like Eichel are we not better off?
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03-03-2023, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Look at the Eichel trade and ask if we got additional assets for Toffoli and Backlund/Tanev and then pooled them all together for a guy like Eichel are we not better off?
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There is no Eichel type available…
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03-03-2023, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Doing nothing isn’t a terrible move. Don’t sell for the sake of selling. If the prices aren’t there, don’t do it.
As long as they aren’t buyers I’ll be satisfied.
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03-03-2023, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sec214
There is no Eichel type available…
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Today, doesn't need to be today.
Eichel
Tkachuk
Chychrun
In the last year or so these are 3 young star players who asked to be moved.
List is longer of RFA's that got traded due to contact reasons.
Flames never have the assets to get in on this since Hamilton and Hamonic trades
Last edited by Macho0978; 03-03-2023 at 11:11 AM.
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03-03-2023, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Lindsay Hamilton is a goddess.
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03-03-2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Today, doesn't need to be today.
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Fair, sorry I miss understood you points. My bad.
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03-03-2023, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
Doing nothing isn’t a terrible move. Don’t sell for the sake of selling. If the prices aren’t there, don’t do it.
As long as they aren’t buyers I’ll be satisfied.
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That's where I'm at as well. It's disappointing we didn't have the foresight to sell after the Vegas / Colorado losses with all the action in the last few days.
There doesn't appear to be lots of trade partners left and my guess is that would impact our trade returns.
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03-03-2023, 11:14 AM
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#57
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Today, doesn't need to be today.
Eichel
Tkachuk
Chychrun
In the last year or so these are 3 young star players who asked to be moved.
List is longer of RFA's that got traded due to contact reasons.
Flames never have the assets to get in on this since Hamilton and Hamonic trades
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lol
yeah if only the Flames had assets to go after Tkachuk
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03-03-2023, 11:15 AM
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#58
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Colorado and Carolina both would still be great teams to sell to. Both of them can use some of the 2024 UFAs.
Finding homes for the scrubs might be harder.
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03-03-2023, 11:16 AM
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#59
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I'm still holding out hope that Carolina and Colorado are looking at some of our players with this season + one more on their contracts. They seem like teams that should be going for it but still have their '23 1st round picks.
...sigh.
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03-03-2023, 11:17 AM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
It's kind of weird - I'm not sure how posters can want the flames to trade a core piece and then retool for next season. Trading Lindholm or Backlund will not make the flames better either this season or next. It's not a realistic option.
Three seasons out, when futures might help us, Huberdeau and Kadri will be on a hard decline of post apex.
The realistic options are tear it down or stay the course for another season. There's really no in between
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Sign them or trade them before the season for players that will help soon.
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